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23 messages, Last post on Nov 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM
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Replying to: mikefl1 (Oct 21, 2007 7:28 am) |
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| my 07 (24K miles) has been at dealership for this problem for 10 days now. I had a problem with the abs "thinking" it was in a skid, or on ice or whatever, (it was blue sky and 75 degrees here in AZ at the time, in town going about 35 MPH) and the car made heavy grinding type noises, transmission shifted down, and the engine felt like it momentarily stalled. I had no brake control for a moment. Then all was good. I headed for a Ford dealership 2 miles away and the ABS light came on two or three times, on the way and when it did there was little or no brakes. That dealer ffound no problem, and no codes showed up. He switched the ABS system off, and had me take it to the dealer where I bought it in Tucson (45 miles away). They can't replicate the problem, but are still researching. | |
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Replying to: jhays (Mar 28, 2008 8:49 am)
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Replying to: jhays (Mar 28, 2008 8:49 am)
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Replying to: jhays (Apr 08, 2008 8:46 pm) clean, under warranty , so did the deal and took the car to work.. once when I was reversing the car from the sellers home, I felt the brake not working.. it was a fraction of a second, so didn't register.. put it in drive and drove away.. put about 50 miles today.. and brought it home.. loaded my wife and 2 kids (4yr and 2yr old) in the new car , so my wife can drive me to work, and I can pickup my old car.. our house is on a hill, with a sloping driveway..in a culdesac wife put the car in reverse, and next thing you know.. lost all control of the car.. brakes wouldnt work.. went down the hill for 50 ft or so.. we were sh*t scared.. the slope goes straight to a house across the street.. I was sitting in front passenger side.. and asked her to hit brakes.. she said she is.. but nothing happened.. I put the auto shift into drive and park, nothing happened.. luckily the car swerved to the left into a public fence.. the fence wrapped around our wheel and stopped us from hitting a tree.. just happened 30 mins ago.. still waiting for AAA and the cops.. as I type this.. thought I'd do a quick check on net for this problem.. and lo and behold.. I see your stories.. My wife used to work at Ford.. and totally pissed at Ford right now.. thank god.. kids and we are safe.. didn't go through the house at the bottom of the hill.. the fence also saved us from ramming into a tree.. given the slope we picked up speed of some 25 /30 miles per hr.. and so glad kids didnt get hurt.. Ford better explain this.. Called the seller, and he says never happened to him.. DC
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Replying to: dchittib (Apr 29, 2008 7:14 pm) |
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Replying to: mikefl1 (Mar 28, 2008 10:09 am) 2006, 30,000 miles, bought new. Hope you get this, your reply was excellent and i had the exact same braking issue as "jhays" I live in a gorge filled college town and am a experienced driver, towing handler, motorcycle driver. Without that i would have surely killed someone when it happened to me on a steep hill in an elementary school zone. After absolutely no help from the dealership ( "Ms. it was a stone under your pad maybe") i self diagnosed my car issue from this forum. Jhays perfectly wrote the symptoms and course of events.... verbatim!!!!! I had one speed sensor replaced (where i heard the noise, front drivers side) almost $400.00 I kept the part for future recall?? I was to scared to even drive the car!!!!! But no matter how hard i tried, Ford wouldn't warranty it, i paid out of pocket. They stated "because the problem couldn't be reproduced, it wouldn't be warranted" I went all the way to the top. Do you have any further ideas on how i can be reimbursed since you seem to know about " not being able to reproduce the problem" I am recently divorced and this car is out of my price range for payments and maintenece but i'm forced to keep up with it for now. Any ideas....help!!!
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Replying to: flatrockale (Jun 30, 2008 6:48 am) |
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I just bought an 06 Navigator about 3 weeks ago. 43K on the odometer The truck appears to be in perfect condition. I noticed a couple issues when I was driving home, and I was going to take it to the dealership when I got a chance. I leave my house (San Diego) at around 9 in the morning on a nice bright sunny day, and begin heading down the hill. I noticed the traction control light flashing and though I'd put it on my list of things to talk to the dealer about when I take it in. That's when I came upon a red light (heading down hill around 45mph) Push the brakes and nothing.. nada, zip, zilch. Blazed through the red light at about 50 (accelerating down the hill). It's a miracle I didn't kill somebody. Everybody at that intersection must have thought I was nuts. Did the pump the brakes deal, and finally got some action on the front left tire. Brake pedal went much further then it usually does, and then started pulsing, and I could hear the front left tire starting to chirp, and the truck slowly came to a stop. I had the truck flat bedded to Witt Lincoln in Escondido CA.. I have talked to the service advisor a few times on the phone, but haven't been down there to talk to him yet. His stance is basically they can't duplicate any problem so there is no problem. Said the traction control threw a couple codes, and they reset it and no problems. I'll be printing out this thread and taking it with me down there. I can't believe that Ford/Lincoln wouldn't be more pro-active on this problem? This is my 2nd Navigator by the way. Last one was a 2000, I put over 200,000 miles on it with no problems. Finally an A/C compressor let go while I was at the river, so I traded it on this one. I must admit though I'm kinda nervous about driving the car now though? |
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On 10/29 mileage on vehicle was 19,758. vehicle was being driven by my wife on a flat city street in Laguna Hills CA  approximately 10 am approx 40 mph and the day was clear and warm. She applied the brake pedal to slow down and the brake pedal was hard and would not depress and the vehicle would not slow down and a grinding noise came from the front wheels and the front end was shaking the antiskid light came on (while she continued to press down on the brake pedal) and the the brakes did not engage until the vehicle traveled approx 100 feet. The vehicle slowed and she pulled into a parking lot at a slow speed and it happened again.Towed to closest dealer. That dealer ffound no problem, and no codes showed up. Took it to dealer that sold the vehicle to us. They can't replicate the problem, but are still researching.
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