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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Fuel System, Sedan
#153 of 165 Fuel pump problem?
Aug 17, 2012 (8:56 am)
We have a 1998 Sable wagon, not a SHO with 215000 miles. The engine is the standard stock engine. It has run fine until a couple of weeks ago when it began to miss and had a slight backfire when going up a hill. The check engine light has been on ever since. The problem now is intermitent.
We took it to a dealership and they THINK it is the fuel pump. The cost $1000. They ran a couple of tests and the following information was on the invoice. 215250 code P0172 Rich bank 2, PSI test was 26-35 psi entire ride No vacuum leaks.
I consulted a good local mechanic and after hearing the sympoms he was skeptical about the fuel pump because the misfire does'nt get worse when accelerating up hill. It actually clears up better. He said run it to failure and he would charge under $500 to replace the fuel pump. Any thoughts on the problem.
#154 of 165 Temp Guage Not Working
Oct 16, 2012 (11:17 am)
I have a 2004 Sable LS with a temp gauge that isn't working. The engine light came on, the temp gauge started reading low and then stopped reading anything. Took it to the mechanic, they said that the thermostat was stuck. Had them replace it but the gauge is still dead. It's the only one on the cluster not working. I asked if it could be the ECT sensor and was told no. The computer is getting a good signal from the sensor, so the mech. said it has to be working. He is saying there is a problem with the cluster but that doesn't make sense. Ford went to a single sensor/sending unit comb for this car, so I know it's not the sender because there isn't a separate one. Tempted to just have them replace the sensor and hope that fixes it.
Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. The idea of driving around with no temp gauge really bothers me!
#155 of 165 Re: Temp Guage Not Working [jmsr21]
Oct 16, 2012 (12:34 pm)
If the computer really is getting a good signal from the sending unit, what is the error code on the check engine light?
New temperature sender for your Sable (2 pinned from Motorcraft) costs 9 dollars and surely you can replace it yourself, and also probably check the wiring from it in order to make sure.
On another hand, if it proves to be a cluster problem, I would assume you have an electronic cluster because there is virtually nothing to break in the mechanical one ...regards, arctic_taurus
#156 of 165 Re: Ford Taurus stalls when car is hot and idles roughly [kim771]
Dec 05, 2012 (2:48 am)
I pulled all the fuses out shined up the terminals and the check engine light went out and the fuel pump works now( what a cheap fix.)
#157 of 165 Re: 98 Taurus fuel problem [techdude66]
Dec 05, 2012 (10:17 pm)
try cleaning up your 30 amp fuse for pump and check all your grounds
#158 of 165 2000 ford Taurus duratec v6 24v fuel problems
Dec 31, 2012 (2:51 pm)
check engine light is on= code P0191...Symptom's are "No start but cranking has spark"...first key turn no fuel pump prime noise heard.... symptom comes and goes in any type of weather or temperatures On second crank if you turn the key to off and than turn it back to crank ( if i hear the fuel pump prime) than the car starts..but if i don't it will just crank but sometimes after i hear the pump prime and starts it stumbles like it wants to die and it does..(and sometimes it doesn't stumble) So i do this a few times making sure i hear the pump prime and if i get lucky it starts and runs fine and off i go...Once the car is running i have no problems with staling at stops,highway speeds or idle.. Symptoms appear at first start no matter how long its been sitting (5minute to 24hrs)..youtube has a real good video on this "Ford Electronic Returnless Fuel System Diagnosis (Part 1)"..did all the Diagnosis on the black box module connecters and the inertia switch and everything passed...So what the HELL is up with this car? anyone thinks it's the Fuel pump? or something else? Any feedback is appreciated
#159 of 165 update fixed :2000 ford Taurus duratec v6 24v fuel problems
Jan 07, 2013 (2:42 pm)
.the problem was the (part number Xs2z9f972ea ) Sensor Fuel Injector Pressure on a 2000 taurus se 3.0 24v duratec
#160 of 165 Re: update fixed :2000 ford Taurus duratec v6 24v fuel problems [gsc01972]
Jan 07, 2013 (4:19 pm)
Wow! thanks, gsc01972. that one must have cost like a new fuel pump! If anyone has similar problem, I'd measure voltage with multimeter on the connector to the inertia switch to diagnose that thing: on 2000, the fuel pressure regulator (or "fuel pressure sensor") is an unusual electric switch feeding between PCM and a fuel pump voltage regulator which will turn up or lower the voltage to the fuel pump to control the pressure that way (instead of just letting excess gas flow through a return line back, as in older Taurus). If the voltage was present in both cases (when there's humming noise from the pump, and when not), that would be most likely be pump itself..
#161 of 165 Re: update fixed :2000 ford Taurus duratec v6 24v fuel problems [arctic_taurus]
Jan 07, 2013 (5:52 pm)
This problem was driving me nuts.....yeah..it is costly...on E-bay around $113 NEW...don't know what it is at the dealer but im not buying it!! ill go to the junkyard and buy one for under $10..Hopefully its a good one! Yes im cheap...specially on a 13yr old car that has no selling value. On KBB it has value but on Craigslist a really nice one you can get for under $2200 in the NEW England states ....In the end i hope this helps anyone that has this kind of problem....Do it yourself and SAVE MONEY....In the age of information..
#162 of 165 Re: update fixed :2000 ford Taurus duratec v6 24v fuel problems [gsc01972]
Jan 08, 2013 (2:13 pm)
yeah, junkyard can be a treasury house for some parts! Taurus is a great car, 13 years isn't really an age for it..