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Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer?

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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [ljgbjg] by accelerator
Apr 15, 2008 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: ljgbjg (Apr 15, 2008 12:11 pm)

Honda already produced the answer... S2000. if you don't believe me, ask my pocket book. I can afford an S2000; I cannot afford a GTR. Thankfully, the GTR will never beat the pants off of me since I wont set foot (or any other body part) in a GTR.
 
But I'm guessing this probably isn't the answers you are looking for. Just a light-hearted response on this hectic Tuesday.
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [accelerator] by ljgbjg
Apr 17, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: accelerator (Apr 15, 2008 12:34 pm)

The S2000 is a great sports car in the tradition of British 2 seat roadsters taken to the limit - MUCH more reliable, MUCH quicker (I had mine up to 150+ once), much better EVERYTHING. It is no cruiser with 4000 RPM/76 MPH on the Interstate, and it is no 1/4 mile dragster, thought its numbers are respectable it is not in GTR territory - not even the NSX was!. Perhaps Honda can come up with a 4 liter, DOHC V-8 with 480 HP and 9000 RPM redline - two 2.0 liter S2000 engines! THEN it might answer the GTR and without too much more room necessary in the engine compartment!
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [ljgbjg] by bigmclargehuge
Apr 24, 2008 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: ljgbjg (Apr 17, 2008 12:38 pm)

High revs make a fun noise, but are not always the fastest option for a road car.
 
It might compete with an M3 with a 320tq double-2.0, but not a GT-R. Unless its made from carbon-fiber and tissue paper, it can't be without 400-500tq.
 
Audi has come to terms that a high-revving V8 wasn't the best choice over a V6 TT
 
BMW is realizing the potential of the I-6 TT over the high-revving V8 released at the same time
 
Frankly, to get a high-revving naturally aspirated engine to produce that much torque, it might as well be a 5.0-7.0L engine. And unless you're going with a big Chevy V8, it might as well be a V10-V12. Somewhere in the range of 550-650hp.
 
Look at the engines in the 599GTB and Gallardo versus the F430, M3, and RS4. The V8s built so far to your spec all have about the same grunt. The V10-12's are more in the range of what Honda is looking for. Honda probably has the right idea.
 
Besides, they'd all be better off cutting their engines in half and TT-ing them.
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Them's fightin' words! by bigmclargehuge
Jun 18, 2008 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Apr 24, 2008 5:42 am)

Honda CEO says NSX will be faster than GT-R

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