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Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer?

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Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? by bf109ace
Oct 19, 2007 (12:45 pm)
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Nissan will bring the 473hp GT-R to the U.S. next spring. I wonder why Honda does not bring to its lineup a super sports car in addition to the 2010 NSX, which commends a price tag of over $100K.
 
S2000 is excellent though the design and styling are getting old. I'd like to see Honda comes up with a more power sport car like the GT-R, with V6 turbo or V8. Honda has the technology and expertise. But neither Honda nor Toyota builds anything like the GT-R. Why?
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [bf109ace] by claires HOST
Oct 21, 2007 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: bf109ace (Oct 19, 2007 12:45 pm)

You might find some like-minded souls in the Nissan GT-R discussion if you haven't already discovered them.
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [bf109ace] by spidey0123
Oct 22, 2007 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: bf109ace (Oct 19, 2007 12:45 pm)

well basically I think it's because the GTR aka Godzilla is a "one of a kind" tour de force from Japan that no other Japanese performance car had got closer in comparison to.. It's a legend.. it had made records and feats in the motorsports world unmatched by any other Japanese brands.. Honda and Toyota find it difficult to compete with it.
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [spidey0123] by fedlawman
Oct 22, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: spidey0123 (Oct 22, 2007 8:37 am)

It was a great car, no doubt, 15-20 years ago.
 
But somehow I don't think Honda and Toyota are going to lose any sleep over it in 2008.
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [fedlawman] by trueteller
Feb 15, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Oct 22, 2007 10:02 am)

It was a great car, no doubt, 15-20 years ago.
  
But somehow I don't think Honda and Toyota are going to lose any sleep over it in 2008.

 
I'm not quite sure what you mean.
 
Anyway, it never hurts to have a performance flagship. The idea is to get GT-R fans to become bigger Nissan fans so they recommend Altimas and Muranos to their friends if given an opportunity. Its good for company stock to be #1 at something.
 
I think it was the latest Road and Track Owners survey that said the NSX had the highest customer loyalty of any recent production model. For now Honda and Toyota are missing out on that type of publicity. The 3 letters on everyones lips right now are G T R
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [trueteller] by accelerator
Feb 15, 2008 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: trueteller (Feb 15, 2008 2:02 pm)

In the case of the GTR, the other #1 title the GTR can claim is in the fugly category. Does that counter the other #1 category it holds?
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [accelerator] by trueteller
Feb 15, 2008 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: accelerator (Feb 15, 2008 2:24 pm)

In the case of the GTR, the other #1 title the GTR can claim is in the fugly category. Does that counter the other #1 category it holds?
 
I agree, not the most beautiful car ever made. But aggressive styling doesn't necessarily hurt with supercars.
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [trueteller] by accelerator
Feb 15, 2008 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: trueteller (Feb 15, 2008 2:33 pm)

The Stealth Bomber comes to mind.
 
Wasn't Toyota coming out with a new Supra or has that been tabled? I remember seeing a white concept and that was pretty sharp looking but concepts don't always make it to fruition.
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [accelerator] by trueteller
Feb 15, 2008 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: accelerator (Feb 15, 2008 2:45 pm)

The Stealth Bomber comes to mind.
  
Wasn't Toyota coming out with a new Supra or has that been tabled? I remember seeing a white concept and that was pretty sharp looking but concepts don't always make it to fruition.

 
This is the latest I've heard. Since partnering with Subaru, I think Toyota is leaning towards the Celica as a sort of Impreza coupe with an optional STI version at 300hp. If its light enough that should be able to perform decently, at a much smaller purchase price than a GT-R.
 
Celica
 
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Re: Nissan GT-R - Does Honda Have an Answer? [trueteller] by fedlawman
Feb 15, 2008 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: trueteller (Feb 15, 2008 2:02 pm)

It was a great car, no doubt, 15-20 years ago.
   
But somehow I don't think Honda and Toyota are going to lose any sleep over it in 2008.
  
"I'm not quite sure what you mean."
 
I meant that Honda and Toyota are not losing sleep over Nissan sales figures, and they're not likely to change their thinking just because a relative two-bit player like Nissan now has a "flagship."
 
I do agree that it's great that Nissan is doing it - you're right, it doesn't hurt to have a flagship.

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