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First Look: 2009 Nissan GT-R - Due for its much-anticipated unveiling at the 2007 Tokyo Auto Show, the 2009 Nissan GT-R will finally arrive in the U.S. next spring. Nothing will ever be the same again. (more)

A Lap of the Nurburgring in the 2009 Nissan GT-R - One of the primary performance objectives set forth by the Nissan GT-R's development team is to lap the Nürburgring's Nordschleife faster than a 997-based Porsche 911 Turbo. The 2009 Nissan GT-R had circled the famed circuit in 7 minutes and 55 seconds during endurance testing earlier in the year, trailing the 911 Turbo by 15 seconds. (more)

First Drive: 2009 Nissan GT-R (JDM Spec) - Unlike most supercars, the GT-R doesn't sit only 2 inches off the ground, so it's easy to slide into the driver seat. This is a Japanese-market car, so we're on the right-hand side, which makes everything feel awkward. The seat is firm and narrow, and the high center console gives the cabin a tight, cockpit-style feel. (more)

Full Test: 2009 Nissan GT-R (Japanese-Spec) - We know you want the numbers and we're not going to waste your time. Neither is Nissan. Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. (more)

Full Test: 2009 Nissan GT-R - Bottom Line:The GT-R delivers a rare combination of speed, agility and technological sophistication. It's a bit of a cold fish, but for $76K, we'll deal. (more)

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#35 of 93 Talk is cheap... see ya'll all vette owners at the track this summer by koukir32 Jan 14, 2008 (10:09 pm)
Blah Blah Blah, all I am hearing is from all american muscle car guys can't seems to accept new challenges. yes Chev. 350ci motor is best motor ever created. So suprised that its not at 100hp/liter. Oh, yes we all live in perfect weather all the time, yes yes, let see how u talk smack when it''s raining outside.. see who can perform better in the wet or dry for that matter. Or should I say when u try to seat 4? anyways, the new gadjets that comes with this car (GT-R) is simply incredible, Let me put it this way, the last gen GT-R (R34) was discontinued since 2001. Nissan took almost 7yrs to perfect this GT-R. And not only by its performance, also by it's everyday livablity. Not too mention that this car is gonna tobe sold worldwide! I don't see Vette or Viper being sold worldwide? Oh, thats right there's actually other country exist. And they actually rate the insurance/registration fees (bigger displacement cost more) based on displacement of the engine. So thats why the rest of the world don't make engine the size of texas. No wonder Ferrari / Porsche don't do that. Wow....LMAO Replies to this message: master2 (Jan 15, 2008 4:44 pm) master2 (Jan 15, 2008 5:15 pm) hsquared (Jan 15, 2008 9:43 pm)
#36 of 93 Re: C 'mon guys, think. [hsquared] by master2 Jan 15, 2008 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: koukir32 (Jan 14, 2008 10:09 pm) The reason why the Vette placed last is because it was a little bit more crude in it's driving dynamics, not's performance. The exact words printed by Mark Gillies are as followed( On paper, the ZO6 is the best car here. It accelerates as fast as the 911 turbo and wastes both the Porsche and the Ferrari above 120mph. How about 0-150 in 17.7 secs? Thats up there in Ford GT territory, if not as stupid fast as the Mclaren F1. On the Autobhan it was still accelerating while the FERRARI was topped at 186 in 6th gear) . We're talking about performance here nothing else. And in performance is where it WHOOPED not only the FERRARI but the PORSCHE, the proof is in the print which is not my own opinion, it's fact proven by the editors of the magazines. You are right about one thing, the Porsche doesn't have a dual clutch set up. Now please come up with some proof that a 911 turbo, GT3 or a Ferrari F430 with out perform a ZO6, after all there are performance cars not luxury cars and performance is what counts. Keep in mind that a Z51 Vette beat a 911 Turbo by 2.2 secs. which was also proven in the Lightening Lap at VIR August 2007 edition. Isn't EMBARRASSING HAVING A $50,000 car WHOOPING a $130,000 car. Once again the Vettes performance has already been proven, not only on the street but also in the AMLS winning 6 out of the 7 years that it has been participating which is much more than I can say for the Nissan GT-R. Replies to this message: master2 (Jan 15, 2008 5:15 pm) hsquared (Jan 15, 2008 9:43 pm)
#37 of 93 Re: Talk is cheap... see ya'll all vette owners at the track this summer [koukir32] by master2 Jan 15, 2008 (5:15 pm)
Replying to: master2 (Jan 15, 2008 4:44 pm) For your information the Vette has been sold over in Europe for the last 2 or 3 years now that is the reason for the size reduction that was done with the 2005 C6, so do some research before you speak. Talking about everday livability, the Vette has the most trunk space and best gas milage of ANY HIGH PERFORMANCE VEHICLE IN PRODUCTION, let me know when the Ferrari, Porsche or GT-R get exempt from the gas guzzler tax. And European manufacturers do make big cubic inch motors, have you ever heard of AMG. Ferrari and Porsche don't need cubic inches, they either make up for it with turbos or with the number of cylinders. Yes, the 350ci motor can be concidered the best motor ever built. It has nothing to do with being a muscle car guy or a rice burner lover, the fact is that the small block 350 is the longest production motor ever produced which means its durability has been proven over and over again which is more than be said for any Jap sports car that are either slow as hell and severely underpowered(RX-8) or just plain get discontinued after only few years(Supra,NXS). If I wanted 4 seats I would go and purchase a Cadillac. I have seen and driven Vettes in the rain and they handle perfect, now if you are going to RACE in the rain you deserve to go head first into tree or off an embankment somewhere. Replies to this message: hsquared (Jan 15, 2008 9:43 pm)
#38 of 93 Re: C 'mon guys, think. [master2] by hsquared Jan 15, 2008 (9:43 pm)
Replying to: master2 (Jan 15, 2008 5:15 pm) So you like this "lightning lap" thing because it tells you what you want to believe. Someone else may like the Nurburgring lap times because that tells them what they want to believe. None of that changes the fact that the performance of the GT-R in this test seems to show that it's all that Nissan promised it would be. And remember, this test was performed on what Edmunds call a "less-than-ideal surface". I've always thought that Edmund's numbers for the Z06 didn't do the car justice. But the fact the you and a lot of other vette guys are getting your panties in a twist over this article shows that you're wondering if the GT-R might be a true contender. Even to the point of some of you suggesting that Edmunds is fudging their numbers. Maybe it's C&D that's fudging. That kind of speculation is a slippery slope.
#39 of 93 Vent Function? by thepdmm Feb 10, 2008 (11:49 am)
Are the Vents (Behind front wheel well and hood) on the 09 GT-R functional? I guess for 70K they have to at least be real? If they don't have much use that is fine, but is the hole really there? Replies to this message: thenebean (Feb 13, 2008 7:48 am) trueteller (Feb 15, 2008 1:05 pm) thenebean (Feb 15, 2008 1:11 pm) and 15 more...
#40 of 93 Re: Vent Function? [thepdmm] by thenebean Feb 13, 2008 (7:48 am)
Replying to: thepdmm (Feb 10, 2008 11:49 am) the vents are there to cool the brakes - they are definitely functional. and some of the corvette fans should calm down - all this competition does is make it better for performance nuts. why people can't give credit where credit is due is beyond me. if you take the time to read about all the technologies that nissan included in this car, and the design process and thought process behind the shape of the car and all the pieces that make it up, you'd realize that its not just nissan throwing together something really quick just to pretend to be a player in the high end sportscar market. the GT-R has long been regarded one of the best overall sports cars in the world, and has a history going back 40 plus years...not just the last few months. take some time to read and educate yourselves before making assumptions on anything. my two cents -thene Replies to this message: trueteller (Feb 15, 2008 1:05 pm) thenebean (Feb 15, 2008 1:11 pm) 240ka (Feb 15, 2008 4:00 pm) and 14 more...
#41 of 93 Re: Vent Function? [thenebean] by trueteller Feb 15, 2008 (1:05 pm)
Replying to: thenebean (Feb 13, 2008 7:48 am) Amen, I get tired of the "American vs. Japanese" argument as well. No country has a monopoly on performance. However, lets say that Edmunds and Nissan are telling the truth, and this thing can do a 0-60 in 3.3s, and 1/4-mile in 11.6. That is with only minimal testing! The Z06 has been to drag strips all over the country in the hands of experienced drivers running multiple laps and posting good times. The GT-R's been borrowed for a day and put through numerous tests. They said they didn't launch it much, because they were borrowing it. As for it being possible in a 3800lb car? Well it does have 2x as many wheels throwing torque to the ground. Traction makes a huge difference in acceleration. So lets just call this one plausible. And stickier tires are likely to improve the grip of the GT-R just as easily as for the Z06. The power might be similar, but AWD allows more of that to be used from a dead stop without spinning. Thus the argument to use AWD despite the added weight. That being said, this competition is indeed a good thing. I'll be just as psyched about the ZR1 as the GT-R V-spec, or whatever higher-performance versions they come up with to gain a slight temporary advantage. Depending on what you like, there should be increasingly impressive 2WD or AWD affordable supercars available to the masses. Replies to this message: thenebean (Feb 15, 2008 1:11 pm) 240ka (Feb 15, 2008 4:00 pm) trueteller (Feb 16, 2008 5:13 am) and 13 more...
#42 of 93 Re: Vent Function? [trueteller] by thenebean Feb 15, 2008 (1:11 pm)
Replying to: trueteller (Feb 15, 2008 1:05 pm) nice post true! Also - i have read (but nothing confirmed) that dyno tests done to the GT-R indicate anywhere from 450-480hp at the wheels, which means that its likely that Nissan is underrating the hp of the engine a little bit. Fact or Fiction? not sure, but the rumor is out there.. food for thought...might also explain the speed vs. weight issue.... -thene Replies to this message: 240ka (Feb 15, 2008 4:00 pm) trueteller (Feb 16, 2008 5:13 am) 240ka (Feb 16, 2008 9:42 am) and 12 more...
#43 of 93 Re: Vent Function? [thenebean] by 240ka Feb 15, 2008 (4:00 pm)
Replying to: thenebean (Feb 15, 2008 1:11 pm) its not like it should be suprising. nissan always underrated previous skyline GT-R's fact is that it crushes z06's an d911 turbos alike and just wait for the Spec V. its giong to crush the ZR-1 also. mind you people Nissan is gearing the GT-R Spec V for going after the Carrera GT. chevy doesnt have a chance Replies to this message: trueteller (Feb 16, 2008 5:13 am) 240ka (Feb 16, 2008 9:42 am) trueteller (Feb 16, 2008 2:23 pm) and 11 more...
#44 of 93 Re: Vent Function? [240ka] by trueteller Feb 16, 2008 (5:13 am)
Replying to: 240ka (Feb 15, 2008 4:00 pm) In a straight line, the ZR1 has the potential to be quite impressive. Not just because of the massive horsepower, but because they've finally realized they should be getting 100hp/liter. Shrinking the engine while boosting power might make it lighter in the front, with better traction in the rear and hence faster. We have yet to see though. Also, I think in the 2011-2012 timeframe, Chevy is thinking about putting Corvette on a further diet, with the engine size set to 4.7L or so. This could bring the future Corvettes below 3000lbs. A 1000lb weight difference will put some pressure on the GT-R for sure. However, for the time being, the speed of the stock GT-R is nothing compared to what the GT-R is even more famous for: aftermarket tuning. With today's advances in tuning software, and Nissan's onboard computer prowess, it is unknown how much bolt-on power potential that engine has left in it. Intake/exhaust + reflash alone could get up to an instant 100-200hp. Do a turbo and intercooler swap? And you can easily double what a boosted engine puts out. There's plenty of R33s that were tuned to 1000hp/tq. And being AWD, all of that power goes straight to the pavement. If Nissan's launch control can hold it all in check, expect 0-60 in the high 2's and 1/4-mile in the sub-10's. Basically all GT-Rs are like a Lingenfelter with intake/exhaust restricitons holding them back. Remove any restrictions and let'er fly. Replies to this message: 240ka (Feb 16, 2008 9:42 am) trueteller (Feb 16, 2008 2:23 pm) 240ka (Feb 16, 2008 2:51 pm) and 10 more...