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First Look: 2009 Nissan GT-R
- Due for its much-anticipated unveiling at the 2007 Tokyo Auto Show, the 2009 Nissan GT-R will finally arrive in the U.S. next spring. Nothing will ever be the same again. (more)
 
A Lap of the Nurburgring in the 2009 Nissan GT-R - One of the primary performance objectives set forth by the Nissan GT-R's development team is to lap the Nürburgring's Nordschleife faster than a 997-based Porsche 911 Turbo. The 2009 Nissan GT-R had circled the famed circuit in 7 minutes and 55 seconds during endurance testing earlier in the year, trailing the 911 Turbo by 15 seconds. (more)
 
First Drive: 2009 Nissan GT-R (JDM Spec) - Unlike most supercars, the GT-R doesn't sit only 2 inches off the ground, so it's easy to slide into the driver seat. This is a Japanese-market car, so we're on the right-hand side, which makes everything feel awkward. The seat is firm and narrow, and the high center console gives the cabin a tight, cockpit-style feel. (more)
 
Full Test: 2009 Nissan GT-R (Japanese-Spec) - We know you want the numbers and we're not going to waste your time. Neither is Nissan. Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. (more)
 
Full Test: 2009 Nissan GT-R - Bottom Line:The GT-R delivers a rare combination of speed, agility and technological sophistication. It's a bit of a cold fish, but for $76K, we'll deal. (more)


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Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R First Look by
Oct 19, 2007 (5:47 am)
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Here's our first look of the 2008 GT-R. Take a look and post your comments!
 

First Look: 2009 Nissan GT-R

 
Plus! Check out our visit with the GT-R engineers!
 
A Lap of the Nurburgring in the 2009 Nissan GT-R
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The Numbers do not add up by mbukukanyau
Oct 20, 2007 (5:51 pm)
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Nissan GTR
pound curb weight.3,836
0-60-3.5 seconds
quarter-mile time of 11.7 seconds
Engine Specs 473 horsepower and 434 lb-ft
 
2007 Porsche 911 GT3 2dr
Engine Specs 415 hp at 300 pound-feet of torque at 5,500 rpm.
 
pound curb weight 3,238
 
 0-60 mph in 3.9 seconds
 quarter-mile in 12.2

2006 Chevrolet Corvette

 
0-to-60 time 4.5 seconds
quarter-mile 12.2
Powetrain 470 lb-ft of torque 505 horsepower
Manufacturer Curb Weight (lb): 3130
 
Unless there is something wrong with your testing, based on power to weight ratio, there is no way that nissan can get the 3.5 0-60 numbers, All these stats are from inside line.
 
That Engine would have to be at full power with afterburners from the get go to propell all that mass at such velocity in such a short time
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You're forgetting something, though. by jkavanagh
Oct 23, 2007 (9:09 am)
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Neither the GT3 nor the Z06 have all wheel-drive.
 
The GT-R is all wheel-drive. This gives it an advantage in standing-start acceleration.
 
Consider that the last 911 Turbo we tested ran the 0-60 sprint in 3.4 seconds. The 911 Turbo has AWD, though a bit more power and apparently a bit less weight than the GT-R.
 
The GT-R's 3.5 seconds is believable. The GT-R has an advantage in that it can do the 1st-2nd upshift faster than any human could do it, which is another key to a good 0-60 time.
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...and another thing... by jkavanagh
Oct 23, 2007 (9:31 am)
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I've been asked whether the 7:38 is a more recent time than those published by other outlets. The answer is yes. Other publications / websites drove the GT-R earlier in the year (I believe it was May). At that point the GT-R's fastest 'Ring time had not yet been set.
 
The event we attended was later in the year (September) and was Nissan's final trip to the 'Ring related to GT-R.
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How much boost?? by f5cobra
Oct 26, 2007 (9:36 pm)
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Pretty impressive times for such a heavy car, anybody hear how much boost this thing has? If they're only running 8 or so, imagine what a chip & more boost will do!
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GT-R boost pressure by jkavanagh
Oct 29, 2007 (1:56 pm)
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Boost is between 10.1 and 11.6 psi.
 
From our First Drive of the GT-R.
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Tires used on the 7:38 lap by jkavanagh
Oct 29, 2007 (2:19 pm)
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There's been some confusion over the tires used on the GT-R during its 7:38 lap of the Nurburgring. Various sources have reported that cut slicks were used. This is incorrect, and stems from a language barrier at a press conference during the GT-R's debut at the Tokyo Motor Show.
 
Senior GT-R development engineering staff on hand at the 'ring trip I attended confirmed that production-specification (including the tread compound) Bridestone RE070 tires were used on the 7:38 lap.
 
The three pre-production cars Nissan had on hand during the final Nurburgring trip were production-intent configuration. The strongest car of the three (within production variation) was selected to run the lap, with no "hotting up" done to fudge the result.
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Re: Tires used on the 7:38 lap [jkavanagh] by gpx250
Nov 15, 2007 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: jkavanagh (Oct 29, 2007 2:19 pm)

Dude, thank you for posting this comment. I have spent a tiring few weeks attempting to fend off the relentless waves of bull that have been put to me either directly or via web pages, in regards to the legitimacy of the record lap in the GT-R(which was recorded on video by Nissan!).
 
Everything from claims of slick tires, increased boost, a different car being used (Porsche and Z06 no less) and even that the video may not be real but a computer generated virtual lap.
 
You know i heard a saying just this morning and I'm not sure where it's from; "Lies can travel half way around the world before the truth even puts it boots on".
 
Once again, thanks for finally putting Truth's boots on
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Re: Tires used on the 7:38 lap [gpx250] by kash4u
Nov 19, 2007 (12:28 am)
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Replying to: gpx250 (Nov 15, 2007 10:31 pm)

I'm not even sure if the GTR is much faster than my Corvette Z-51 w/ Michelin Cup Tires. The performance times listed for the Corvette are extremely conservative considering my Z-51 runs a 4.2 0-60 (Mfr. claim plus G-Tech verified) and 12.4 1/4 E/T. Obviously an additional 105 bhp Z06 is much quicker on much wider tires.
 
I was set on a GTR, except the gross obesity and size mitigate the AWD advantage. Additionally, the power to weight ratio is WORSE than my Corvette C6, not to mention an equivalently priced Z06! Both Vette's weigh in at 3170 and have more cargo space due to the hatchback design.
 
After switching to the much stickier (and Bridgestone GTR OEM equivalent) Michelin Cup Tires I consistently lap w/ 997 GT3 Porsche's which should lap about the same as the Nissan's time. Obviously an additional 105 bhp Z06 is much quicker on much wider tires.
 
Seems like the Nissan is losing it's luster unless I can improve that Power/Weight ratio. But it appears Nissan is doing everything it can to avoid increasing power (which goes a long way in mitigating Skyline appeal). However, given the oversized wheels, brakes, and run-flat tires, plenty of weight savings seem to be had from a track day set of rotating pieces.
 
But from the looks of those calipers, can I fit anything less than 20's w/out replacing the OEM Brake Package and/or simply downsize to a smaller, higher quality rotor (carbon/ceramic/etc.)?
 
Obviously, the GTR represents the best way to get 4 people around a track. But I rarely take more than 1 on a hot lap, and I'd put money from those specs that a Z-51 Corvette 7.2 lbs/bhp on equivalent tires is a faster car. Obviously an additional 105 bhp Z06 is much quicker on much wider tires.
 
Too bad Detroit doesn't focus on fast Ring times like their across the pond counterparts or we'd have an answer.
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Whole Picture by jmaroun
Nov 19, 2007 (11:20 am)
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The biggest question yet to be propperly addressed about this GTR is simple:
 
What is the driving experience like?? For me and most folk who buy sports/sporty cars and incidently have never and will probably never go to a track; what matters most to us is the fun factor. Perhaps that puts it too simply, but it does so succinctly. Fun is an important yet complicated word. Let me try to explain in the hopes that some editor from a magazine or perhaps someone who actually buys the thing will do the world of auto enthusiasts a big favor by addressing this question.
 
Fun is how the car feels during everyday driving. That starts with the morning trek to work. Everything from how it feels to look at your car, squintingly in the morning, as it sits there in your driveway or garage. To how the car handles the cobble stone local roads as you find your way to the highway. Then, how the car accellerates onto the highway or around a tight bend leading to a highway entrance (I love those when unimpeded by traffic).
 
Fun is feeling like you're on rail road tracks at low and medium speeds. It's feeling precise confident steering at higher speeds as well. Fun is knowing you can splurge on the throttle knowing you won't have to refuel until the end of the week.
 
Fun is loving the way your car looks and having the occasional complement and bystander neck turns. It's fun to be able to take your car to wedding or resteraunt along with relatives, or hitting the night out on the town with a hot date or buddies.
 
Fun is knowing you got a great deal and value for your money, and that your car isn't going to break down all the time.
 
0-60, 1/4mi and Nuremburg times are all exotic and exciting news about the GTR. It's what places the GTR in the lime light for sure. It's also important to know how the car feels in everyday driving.
 
I know, this information will come. I just want it to come soon.
 
Joseph

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