Last post on Mar 31, 2009 at 9:00 AM
You are in the Toyota Matrix
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Toyota Matrix, Car Safety, Auto Repair, Fuel System, Car Comparisons, Wagon
#8 of 17 Does anyone out there know....
Oct 25, 2007 (1:11 pm)
If there is a place where I can post what I am looking for, and where I am looking for it, that dealers would look at and respond to? I am trying some reverse marketing and put out there what I am looking for so I can start negotiating an out the door price. I simply believe that dealers should compete for my business and I do not have the time to search to find what I am looking for, do my research on what I found, and then contact the dealer to be stonewalled with a simple lack of response. Unlike my experience when I bought my last motorcycle, I knew the players and contacted each one directly by email before ever setting foot in the place; but I had them competing against one another and got a great deal:
I got the bike, the extended warranty, the priority maintenance agreement, the taxes and tags paid, the cover, a matching set of helmets with headsets included and still paid over 1000 less than factory invoice on a bike that only had 5 miles on it. I sold it a couple of years later for more than I paid for it with 40,000.
I am simply trying to get similar results with a car, but I am also trying to save time.
It seems to me that the customer service standards at a car dealer are different from what you would find at a motorcycle dealer; and it's sad.
#9 of 17 Re: Does anyone out there know.... [johnkarn]
Oct 25, 2007 (2:14 pm)
You don't say where you are, but if you are close to DC you can see if www.fitzmall.com has what you are looking for. No hassle online shopping, with their inventory and prices a click a way.
Mar 18, 2009 (8:21 pm)
I have begun my search for a used Toyota Matrix Xr 2WD(2006, 2007 model). I have been saving for a Matrix for a long time! What sold me on the Matrix over the Corolla was how much you can fit in the Matrix and the potential to take it camping.
I need advice. After reading the forums, I am a little discouraged about what I have complaints regarding the Matrix transmission. I noticed the complaints were mainly the 03' and 04' models; are the later model tranny's better? I don't know if I should buy an automatic or manual transmission? I fear the automatic 1.8L is a slug, is this true? I don't even know if I should continue to look for a Matrix? Is the Corolla a better car? I am loyal to Toyota. My current car is a 1990 Toyota Camry....can I get this long of a life out of a Matrix?
#11 of 17 Re: Toyota Matrix.... Pre purchase research [johnkarn]
Mar 24, 2009 (9:41 am)
I just thought I'd mention that I'm a farly tall woman, and I sat in a new generation Matrix and found it uncomfortable. My right knee seemed jammed against the dash/console.
Interestingly, sitting in a 10th generation Corolla was just fine, plenty of room, like being home. I think the shape of the dash is just different enough to make a difference. So I share this in case you think Matrix and Corolla are identical, I find this is not true! I can't speak to the earlier versions, though, just the '09s, which are old enough now to be reasonable on the used market.
#12 of 17 Re: NEED ADVICE [bellatogo02]
Mar 24, 2009 (9:54 am)
You have to keep in mind that Matrixes and Corollas are no longer Japanese cars, like they were when my '98 came out. I think I saw a 40% on the window sticker last Sunday. I don't know how long it's been that way, but I consider it a change for the worse. That said, I believe that if you stick with later models you'll be fine.
Test the 1.8 for yourself to see if it's fast enough for you. Brand loyalty is really not necessary this day and age, buy what you need instead. If you are considering a Corolla rather than a Matrix, for example, then it sounds like you haven't decided if you need a car that can carry things besides people or not. Determine what you need FIRST. Also, if you looking at a car with a CVT, like a Nissan Versa or Rogue, a Prius, a Jeep Compass, or a Dodge Caliber, bear in mind that you will have to change slightly the way your foot talks to the car to make it go, as the traditional way of stomping on the accelerator doesn't yield the same results! Also for the last 10 years or so since fuel-injected cars were the norm, you must never pump the accelerator to start them or you create expensive problems for yourself and for the car's next owner. Simply bump the key, let it idle for 5 minutes, and go.
Anyway, hope my two cents is helpful...
#13 of 17 Re: NEED ADVICE [irismg]
Mar 24, 2009 (12:43 pm)
Simply bump the key, let it idle for 5 minutes, and go.
Umm, except in subzero weather, 15 seconds ought to do it....
#14 of 17 Re: NEED ADVICE [nippononly]
Mar 25, 2009 (2:01 pm)
Thanks for the clarification. Here in the southern plains, we rarely get subzero weather.
#15 of 17 Re: NEED ADVICE [irismg]
Mar 26, 2009 (4:28 pm)
Where I am in California, we don't even have sub-freezing weather, let alone subzero weather. And I don't even do 15 seconds of warmup in the morning, I just start it and go.
#16 of 17 Re: NEED ADVICE [nippononly]
Mar 29, 2009 (3:44 pm)
Well OK. I guess I like mine nice and warm before I start off. Point being, you don't have to start the car and go back into the house to let cars warm up for 15 minutes like you used to. To me, 5 minutes is a very short period of time.
#17 of 17 Re: NEED ADVICE [irismg]
Mar 31, 2009 (9:00 am)
No, you definitely don't need to do 15 minutes. And if you idle it for five minutes in the morning, just be aware that it is significantly reducing your fuel economy. Certainly, I could understand it might be a worthwhile trade-off for you, having a warm car to get into.