Article Comments - Is the 2008 BMW M3 the Best M Car Ever?

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Is the 2008 BMW M3 the Best M Car Ever? - The mission? To find the greatest BMW M car of all time. The car that represents the very pinnacle of the M Division's achievements. Not the fastest, but the best. (more)

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#24 of 39 Re: UK car mags [fedlawman] by roadburner Oct 25, 2007 (4:50 pm)
Replying to: fedlawman (Oct 25, 2007 4:26 pm) My M3 is a mechanical (but not cosmetic) clone of the original Evo III, and is easily the best handling (and most satisfying) sports car I have ever driven. It simply blows the E46 away. Having driven both cars extensively, I'll take the E30 M3 as well. I know this will be considered blasphemous, but I find my Mazdaspeed3 and Club Sport to be more entertaining to drive than a regular E46 M3. A Competition Package car may be another matter... Replies to this message: fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 6:28 am) roadburner (Oct 26, 2007 1:58 pm) fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 3:36 pm) and 2 more...
#25 of 39 Re: UK car mags [roadburner] by fedlawman Oct 26, 2007 (6:28 am)
Replying to: roadburner (Oct 25, 2007 4:50 pm) I've never driven the E46 with the Competition Package, but I'm certain (from the specs, anyways) that it doesn't hold a candle to an authentic, Europe only, CSL. But whether we're talking about the CSL or not, the E46 M3 is simply too big and heavy to compare to the very compact, 2600 lb E30. I've never driven the MazdaSpeed3. Are you talking about the M3 "Club Sport" package? Replies to this message: roadburner (Oct 26, 2007 1:58 pm) fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 3:36 pm) roadburner (Oct 26, 2007 4:48 pm) and 1 more...
#26 of 39 Re: UK car mags [fedlawman] by roadburner Oct 26, 2007 (1:58 pm)
Replying to: fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 6:28 am) Are you talking about the M3 "Club Sport" package? Nope, it's a somewhat rare -less than 300 produced- model that was offered on the US 318ti in 1995. Externally it features the M3/M Technic side moldings, side skirts, front bumper, mirrors, and rear diffuser. Inside were sport seats with specific black Montana leather and red Millpoint cloth and stitching. The suspension was the European M Technic calibration with 16" round spoke wheels. The only options were premium sound, limited slip, and a sunroof. My car is one of no more than five that were ordered without the sunroof(my salesperson had to put up a bit of a fight to keep the bloody thing off my car) Here's a picture of the European version, which didn't get the M3 mirrors: My only complaint is that the car could use a bit more power than the 140 hp M42 engine can provide in stock tune. That said, in a couple of years a stroker motor will cure that problem. It's seen more than a few track days and has proven to be dead nuts reliable. I'll never sell it. Replies to this message: fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 3:36 pm) roadburner (Oct 26, 2007 4:48 pm) fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 6:00 pm)
#27 of 39 Re: UK car mags [roadburner] by fedlawman Oct 26, 2007 (3:36 pm)
Replying to: roadburner (Oct 26, 2007 1:58 pm) Very nice. Although I never warmed to the car, I know the ti has quite a loyal following, and it's well deserved thanks to it's light weight and nimble nature. Forget the stroker - why don't you shoehorn an LS1 in there like one of our local club members did. Replies to this message: roadburner (Oct 26, 2007 4:48 pm) fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 6:00 pm)
#28 of 39 Re: UK car mags [fedlawman] by roadburner Oct 26, 2007 (4:48 pm)
Replying to: fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 3:36 pm) I know the ti has quite a loyal following, and it's well deserved thanks to it's light weight and nimble nature. The semi-trailing arm real suspension also make it a bit more entertaining to drive. Forget the stroker - why don't you shoehorn an LS1 in there like one of our local club members did. Was that car at O'fest? I saw a small block powered 3er at Fort Worth. Replies to this message: fedlawman (Oct 26, 2007 6:00 pm)
#29 of 39 Re: UK car mags [roadburner] by fedlawman Oct 26, 2007 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: roadburner (Oct 26, 2007 4:48 pm) I don't know about the one at O'Fest. There are more than a few "357i's" out and about.
#30 of 39 Looks like... by roadburner Nov 02, 2007 (8:05 am)
Our E46 M3 disciple was a troll... Replies to this message: aidano (Jan 03, 2008 9:38 am) roadburner (Jan 04, 2008 7:34 pm) fedlawman (Jan 04, 2008 7:55 pm)
#31 of 39 Re: Looks like... [roadburner] by aidano Jan 03, 2008 (9:38 am)
Replying to: roadburner (Nov 02, 2007 8:05 am) I don't see how you'd think I was trolling. I was criticizing the fact that the article didn't justify its conclusion, to me, in a satisfactory manner. I am not saying one M3 is terrible and another is great (they're all great). It's all subjective anyway. Anyway, looks like the Edmunds (i.e. not EVO magazine) folk agree with me: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/LongTerm/articleId=124140?tid=edmund- s.il.home.photopanel..1.*#8 "The Roundelisti will tell you the first M3 (E30) is the best. We disagree." Take that, Roundelisti! Replies to this message: roadburner (Jan 04, 2008 7:34 pm) fedlawman (Jan 04, 2008 7:55 pm)
#32 of 39 Re: Looks like... [aidano] by roadburner Jan 04, 2008 (7:34 pm)
Replying to: aidano (Jan 03, 2008 9:38 am) Anyway(sic), looks like the Edmunds (i.e. not EVO magazine) folk agree with me: Wow, world-famous BMW connoisseur Scott Oldham thinks that the E46 is the best M3. Well, that certainly settles that argument. Yawn. Replies to this message: fedlawman (Jan 04, 2008 7:55 pm)
#33 of 39 Re: Looks like... [roadburner] by fedlawman Jan 04, 2008 (7:55 pm)
Replying to: roadburner (Jan 04, 2008 7:34 pm)