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Article Comments - Is the 2008 BMW M3 the Best M Car Ever?

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Is the 2008 BMW M3 the Best M Car Ever? - The mission? To find the greatest BMW M car of all time. The car that represents the very pinnacle of the M Division's achievements. Not the fastest, but the best. (more)


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#16 of 39
Where are the stats? by blueguydotcom
Oct 18, 2007 (2:30 pm)
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So is this article complete? Where are the lap times?
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Re: Has M lost its Mojo? [tides] by fedlawman
Oct 18, 2007 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: tides (Oct 18, 2007 11:19 am)

Yes, I love the E28 M5 and was surprised it wasn't mentioned in the article. I've always wanted to own one, but the lack of factory or aftermarket parts support, and the lack of a large enthusiast following, has kept me away.
 
I love my E30 M3, but I must admit that there are other, more modern cars, that offer a similar driving experience. The Honda S2000 and Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX are two cars that I think would satisfy me if I ever decided to part with my baby (which I won't).
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Re: 1st Gen M Coupe? [bennetpullen] by fedlawman
Oct 18, 2007 (8:43 pm)
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Replying to: bennetpullen (Oct 18, 2007 2:09 pm)

Yes, I figured you were talking about the Z3 M Coupe. It's a great sports car and it has a large enthusiast following too. It also should have been included (or at least mentioned).
 
As for the E30 M3 - no it's not really known as "M3 Coupe." It's just the "M3."
 
You can also call it the "original M3," "E30 M3," or "real M3."
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Aha! by elbee
Oct 24, 2007 (4:54 pm)
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I thought this article seemed a little too well writen for Edmunds. Then I found it was excerpted from the latest issue of EVO.
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Re: 1st Gen M Coupe? [fedlawman] by roadburner
Oct 25, 2007 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Oct 18, 2007 8:43 pm)

It's not really an M car, but what do you think of the 1er tii Concept Car Munich unveiled in Tokyo? I'm not too wild about the stripes, although the reverse script on the front bumper is a cool homage to the 2002 Turbo. If it makes production I might add it to my list, especially if it is fitted with a proper LSD.
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UK car mags by aidano
Oct 25, 2007 (11:24 am)
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The UK car mags have adopted an irritating habit of introducing a twist at the end of their bake off articles in order to produce a slightly unexpected result. Top Gear are the worst offenders, on print and screen.
 
Reading the article, the E46 M3 is the best - they have nothing bad to say about it at all, yet they introduce some wishy-washy sentimental BS to justify the E30 M3 as the best. Their favorite maybe, but it's not the best.
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Re: 1st Gen M Coupe? [roadburner] by fedlawman
Oct 25, 2007 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Oct 25, 2007 8:32 am)

Would you believe I didn't know about the tii?!?! I don't care for the boyracer CF hood and 19" wheels, but anything that makes the car lighter, lower, and more aerodynamic is OK in my book.
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Re: UK car mags [aidano] by fedlawman
Oct 25, 2007 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: aidano (Oct 25, 2007 11:24 am)

"wishy-washy sentimental BS to justify the E30 M3 as the best."
 
There's nothing "wishy-washy" about the E30 M3 Sport Evo (Evo III). It's a true driver's car of the first order - one of the finest sports cars of all time.
 
BMW only built 600 of them, and none of them crossed the pond to North America. My M3 is a mechanical (but not cosmetic) clone of the original Evo III, and is easily the best handling (and most satisfying) sports car I have ever driven. It simply blows the E46 away.
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Re: UK car mags [fedlawman] by roadburner
Oct 25, 2007 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Oct 25, 2007 4:26 pm)

My M3 is a mechanical (but not cosmetic) clone of the original Evo III, and is easily the best handling (and most satisfying) sports car I have ever driven. It simply blows the E46 away.
 
Having driven both cars extensively, I'll take the E30 M3 as well.
I know this will be considered blasphemous, but I find my Mazdaspeed3 and Club Sport to be more entertaining to drive than a regular E46 M3. A Competition Package car may be another matter...
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Re: UK car mags [roadburner] by fedlawman
Oct 26, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Oct 25, 2007 4:50 pm)

I've never driven the E46 with the Competition Package, but I'm certain (from the specs, anyways) that it doesn't hold a candle to an authentic, Europe only, CSL.
 
But whether we're talking about the CSL or not, the E46 M3 is simply too big and heavy to compare to the very compact, 2600 lb E30.
 
I've never driven the MazdaSpeed3. Are you talking about the M3 "Club Sport" package?

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