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Re: Old Benz Diesels [texases]
by corvette
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Jan 05, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 05, 2009 6:47 am)
20 seconds 0-60 is just plain dangerous... To me, a luxury car should be able to get out of its own way, at a minimum.
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Re: Old Benz Diesels [corvette]
by fintail
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Jan 05, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: corvette (Jan 05, 2009 8:02 am)
Heh...a W123 diesel, especially in non-turbo form, with vinyl interior, good chance at manual windows/seats etc, not much in the way of gadgets at all, isn't a luxury car.
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Re: Old Benz Diesels [fintail]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jan 05, 2009 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 05, 2009 8:35 am)
It's just a taxi cab in most parts of the world.
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Re: Old Benz Diesels [Mr_Shiftright]
by fintail
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Jan 05, 2009 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 8:40 am)
Quality and durability - not the same as luxury (kind of like quality and reliability not being the same). Those are the MB traits I like the most. Luxury and MB is a relationship made since the 70s at the very earliest, and really a product of the 80s. 107/116 etc were not really luxurious, and a 126 is even kind of austere in a German way. The ideal of softer leather and bling/gadgets is from the 90s.
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by fintail
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Jan 05, 2009 (11:00 am)
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Jeez, was it a taxi or a police car?
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Re: . [fintail]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jan 05, 2009 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 05, 2009 11:00 am)
Must be the "best deal on the planet" because with that mileage, he must have driven around the earth a few times to verify his own claims.
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Re: 1990 LS400 (corvette) [corvette]
by lemko
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Jan 05, 2009 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (Jan 05, 2009 7:50 am)
I have a 1988 Buick Park Ave I use as a daily beater. You can't kill the car - it's very durable.
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Re: 1990 LS400 (corvette) [lemko]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jan 05, 2009 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 05, 2009 12:05 pm)
Unfortunately, the odds are against you---the reliability ratings for that car are pretty well...mediocre would be the kindest way to say it.
It strikes me more of the "faux luxury" that Detroit specialized in. Cushy seats, cheap switchgear, bad handling.
it's certainly not a car I'd put my daughter in.
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Re: 1990 LS400 (corvette) [Mr_Shiftright]
by lemko
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Jan 05, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 12:15 pm)
I have no problem letting my girlfriend use it as I get plenty of chances to drive her LaCrosse. Of all my cars, I drive the '88 Park Ave the most. Cushy seats, cheap switchgear, bad handling, but it gets the job done! Heck, my other two cars are so nice I'm afraid to drive them in Philly! Girlfriend loves the seats in the car as do many other people who rode in it. They wish automakers still put seats as nice as those in my Park Ave in today's vehicles.
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Re: 1990 LS400 (corvette) [Mr_Shiftright]
by andre1969
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Jan 05, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 12:15 pm)
Unfortunately, the odds are against you---the reliability ratings for that car are pretty well...mediocre would be the kindest way to say it.
I don't think reliability ratings mean much of anything to a 20 year old car. How it's been cared for during its life is much more essential. I saw Lemko's '88 Park Ave soon after he first bought it, and that thing was obviously very well cared for. He's also kept up on maintenance and such, so it should continue to serve him well for awhile.
He's driven it from Philly out to Harrisburg and back numerous times when we get together for car shows, and it hasn't failed him yet!
Now sure, being a 20 year old car that's being used as a daily driver, odds are that eventually, it will succumb to something. But I think I'd trust a 20 year old car with mediocre reliability ratings that's been well cared for more than, say, a 5 year old car with stellar ratings that's been beat on and abused.
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