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Buying Luxury used cars

411 messages,  Last post on Jul 13, 2009 at 10:22 AM

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Re: Volvo: [jrosasmc] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 04, 2009 (4:07 pm)
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Replying to: jrosasmc (Jan 04, 2009 11:45 am)

Yes, I don't think of a Volvo as a luxury car so it doesn't factor into my opinions on the subject.
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Re: 1990 LS400 [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 04, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 04, 2009 3:30 pm)

And the leather on the LS400 usually deteriorates, too. But of course that won't keep you from driving it. It's a very nice, very boring car.
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Re: 1990 LS400 [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Jan 04, 2009 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 04, 2009 4:09 pm)

I've seen that especially on early SCs - also otherwise durable cars. Also, I have seen the steering wheel texture kind of wear off or peel off. That would drive me nuts.
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Re: 1990 LS400 [fintail] by corvette
Jan 05, 2009 (3:19 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 04, 2009 6:09 pm)

You could always get one of those nifty fake wood and rubber covers for it.
 
I have been cleaning up my late grandfather's 1998 Park Avenue Ultra, getting it ready to sell, over the past few days. Much to my chagrin, I discovered that the passenger airbag cover is not molded in the color of the rest of the interior plastic, it's painted black plastic. I found this out when I tried to use a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser to clean some spots off it, and the paint started rubbing off. This is the type of cost-cutting that wouldn't fly in a true luxury car, and the type of thing that can leave a three or five year old car looking beat up. I probably don't need to mention the way it floats and bobs down the road, or that the steering is totally uncommunicative and has a huge dead spot in the middle. By the time you've phoned in a request to correct the car's course, it's already drifted into an adjacent lane.
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Re: 1990 LS400 (corvette) by hpmctorque
Jan 05, 2009 (4:45 am)
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"I probably don't need to mention the way it floats and bobs down the road, or that the steering is totally uncommunicative and has a huge dead spot in the middle."
 
If that describes the Ultra, which I believe came with a firmer suspension than the regular Park Avenue, those negative ride and handling qualities you mentioned are even more exaggerated in the standard Park Avenue. Or was the firmer suspension an option on the '98 Ultra?
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Re: 1990 LS400 (corvette) [hpmctorque] by corvette
Jan 05, 2009 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 05, 2009 4:45 am)

If that describes the Ultra, which I believe came with a firmer suspension than the regular Park Avenue, those negative ride and handling qualities you mentioned are even more exaggerated in the standard Park Avenue. Or was the firmer suspension an option on the '98 Ultra?
 
It has the Dynaride adjustable-height rear suspension, which was standard on the Ultra that year. I have the original window sticker ($36,000 smackeroos--the only options were a CD player and automatic dimming mirror). I think the firmer Gran Touring suspension was an option, but I'm not sure.
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Old Benz Diesels by texases
Jan 05, 2009 (6:47 am)
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Here's a good article about a guy with 3 diesels - at least he gives a realistic description of them, including the great line “I put my foot on the gas, and it didn’t move”, and notes the 20s 0-60 time.
3MBDiesels
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Re: 1990 LS400 (corvette) by hpmctorque
Jan 05, 2009 (7:12 am)
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Thanks for the clarification. The car would be more appealing (or less unappealing?) with the Gran Touring suspension, which I'm almost certain became standard on the Ultra in more recent model years, as the Ultra was the supercharged version of the Park Avenue.
 
I imagine the GT suspension improves the ride/handling proposition significantly. Given the depressed cost of these cars today, they represent a good value in a large sedan. Of course, an aggressive driver would choose something else, but it's a good, solid vehicle for a lot of folks.
 
Good luck in finding a buyer. If it's not too much trouble, it would be interesting to learn about the type of person who buys it.
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Re: 1990 LS400 (corvette) [hpmctorque] by corvette
Jan 05, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 05, 2009 7:12 am)

The heirs are leaning towards wholesaling it, so I'm not sure we'll know the demographic of the final buyer. I briefly toyed with buying it for myself to use as a beater, but decided against it for the reasons we've already discussed.
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Re: Old Benz Diesels [texases] by corvette
Jan 05, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: texases (Jan 05, 2009 6:47 am)

20 seconds 0-60 is just plain dangerous... To me, a luxury car should be able to get out of its own way, at a minimum.

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