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Buying Luxury used cars

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Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars (fintail) [fintail] by bumpy
Dec 30, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 2:40 pm)

I dunno; the seats in my dad's E320 were supportive but I just never liked them at all. I like the seats in the smart a lot more.
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seat comfort... by andre1969
Dec 30, 2008 (3:37 pm)
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how do BMW seats tend to compare with Mercedes seats? The only German car I've ever logged any considerable seat time in is my buddy's 2002 or so 5-series. After about an hour, my thighs started to ache a bit and I was getting restless.
 
Still, by my standards, a seat that I can last an hour in is actually pretty good! My uncle's 2003 Corolla starts irritating me after about 10 minutes!
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Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars (fintail) [bumpy] by fintail
Dec 30, 2008 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Dec 30, 2008 3:29 pm)

My car has the pneumatic multicontour seat adjustments too, that might make a difference. I haven't spent more than a few seconds in a Smart.
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Re: seat comfort... [andre1969] by fintail
Dec 30, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 30, 2008 3:37 pm)

I'd say on average BMW seats have more support and are maybe even a little firmer - to go with the sportier quality of the cars, I guess. That 5er should have the adjustable thigh support section too, maybe that would have helped. I once rode in an X5 that had extremely comfortable seats, it was amazing.
 
I see German car seats as made for people who are maybe a little taller and heavier than average - as Germans can be.
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Re: seat comfort... [fintail] by texases
Dec 31, 2008 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 6:29 pm)

"I see German car seats as made for people who are maybe a little taller and heavier than average - as Germans can be. "
 
Not only Germans...my '83 GTI fit my 6'5" fine, the seats were very comfortable. It amazes me that so many US and Japanese makers design uncomfortable seats - just go buy a Recaro and copy it! I spent 4 hrs being tortured by the squishy seats in an Escalade - and they must have cost big $$.
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Re: seat comfort... [fintail] by bumpy
Dec 31, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 6:29 pm)

Bigger heads, too?
 
That fintail 190D that apparently lives at the local body shop has headrests with what looks like a semicircle carved out of the top and a big indentation in the face.
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Re: seat comfort... [bumpy] by fintail
Dec 31, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Dec 31, 2008 5:36 pm)

Headrests were dealer installed options on fintails, and I assume some aftermarket variants existed too. I know the most common ones have chrome loops that mount them to the seatback, kind of odd. They are relatively rare.
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Re: seat comfort... [texases] by fintail
Dec 31, 2008 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Dec 31, 2008 7:27 am)

A big squishy seat with no lateral or lower support can be the worst kind, even if a larger person can easily fit in it.
 
Speakingof Recaro seats, I saw a pic of an 80s AMG SEC that had Recaro seats, with huge vintage tech controllers at the sides. Somehow, very cool.
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Re: seat comfort... [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 02, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 31, 2008 6:53 pm)

Back in the old days, when Shifty worked for Mercedes Benz NA and dinosaurs freely roamed the earth, just at the end of the Indian Wars and the recession of the last glaciers----Mercedes got a LOT of complaints from new, first-time, American Mercedes owners (this is early 1970s, before electric lighting and indoor toilets) about how HARD the seat were.
 
Americans were so used to driving mom's sofa or a block of ice with a steering wheel, that the Benz characteristics of firm suspension, firm seating, precise shifting and REALLY good brakes were a shock to former Cadillac owners.
 
Some never ever made the adjustment and they went back to Pillowville.
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Re: seat comfort... [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Jan 02, 2009 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 02, 2009 10:24 am)

You even had a fintail when it wasn't a remarkably old car, so you must be a real relic
 
Firm supportive seats are better for long trips if you are even slightly above average in size. Looking at the market now, it looks like people realized luxury doesn't have to be button-tufted with ocean liner handling.

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