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Re: used BMWs [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 18, 2009 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 18, 2009 5:44 pm)

Why does he call it an SL coupe? It's not. '76 was a bad year, probably the worst year. I'd say parts car at this point.
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Re: Winnebago Man [benjaminh] by fintail
May 18, 2009 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: benjaminh (May 18, 2009 5:44 pm)

Hilarious, inspiration for Tourettes Guy. Not a stretch for me to act that way about the defective computer systems at work or the asinine traffic control measures where I live.
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Used Car Exproter by comworld
May 18, 2009 (11:07 pm)
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Hi, i'm new user of this forum.
I'm working at one of the singapore used car exporting company.
thank you
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Re: used BMWs [andre1969] by srs_49
May 19, 2009 (3:31 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 18, 2009 4:51 pm)

The only thing really lacking was good side bolstering, but with the way you'd sink down in those seats, I imagine they'd hold you in place as you pushed those transverse torsion bars, leaf springs, and 75-series tires to their limit.
 
What, you mean like going around an exit ramp at 25 mph ?
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Re: used BMWs [srs_49] by andre1969
May 19, 2009 (5:00 am)
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Replying to: srs_49 (May 19, 2009 3:31 am)

LOL, yeah, something like that! FWIW, I had a 1989 Gran Fury, which underneath is the same thing as an '81 Imperial, and it handled great. However, it was also an ex police car. I guess it wouldn't be too hard to swap some of the heavy duty components onto an Imperial, to improve handling. I guess that would pretty much kill the ride, though.
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Re: used BMWs [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 19, 2009 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 19, 2009 5:00 am)

"Handling" is a very elusive term. You can stiffen an old car up so that it more or less behaves itself on a flat level surface type of road, but that same car, when it hits some ruts or bumps at speed, can turn into a pogo stick with that very same "stiff" suspension.
 
Aside from the mushy, hippo-on-ice steering of most American so-called "luxury" cars of that era (and at least well into the 90s), you had to fight those marginal OEM tires, which I'm sure cost about $5 a piece, if that, at the factory. So stiffening the suspension also required a substantial upgrade in tires and brakes, or what you ended up with was a car that "handled" well until oh my god it didn't anymore.
 
I drove a late 80s T-Bird that had ALL the upgrades, + engine work, and it really did handle great. But that's after about $5,000 in mods.
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Re: used BMWs [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
May 19, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 19, 2009 6:02 am)

All of that is a big reason why people started buying German cars, no doubt.
 
Even my fintail has OK handling (I am sure you remember - a bit of lean, but it can corner), and of course the E55 is amazing for something of its size and mass.
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Re: used BMWs [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 19, 2009 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: fintail (May 19, 2009 7:15 am)

I do remember going from a Buick Riviera into a Fintail, and it was a startling change.
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Re: used BMWs [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
May 19, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 19, 2009 8:04 am)

So much slower off the line...but when you have to turn, it actually keeps up.
 
That reminds me - I recently saw the "Africa" special episode of Top Gear, and May chose a W123 as his car for the journey. It was too heavy for a soft salt flat, so they removed all of the body panels and interior. Clarkson joked that MB has never made a rally car. He must not know about the fintails! From 1960-65 they won dozens of events.
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MB Young Classics Program by vcheng
May 19, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Here's an article that may interest some in this forum:
 
from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/5349638/Top-Mercs-are-as-good-as- -new.html
 
Top Mercs are as good as new
 
You can now buy a fully fettled classic Mercedes from the factory or from a British specialist.
  
By Martin Buckley and Paul Hudson
Published: 1:16PM BST 19 May 2009
 
There has long been a keen following for classic Mercedes-Benz cars, and now the German giant is cashing in by selling and leasing cool but useable older cars.
 
It is marketing hand-picked examples from the 1960s, 70s and 80s, backed by a 12-month warranty. Each has a full service history and no more than 150,000 kilometres (93,000 miles) on the clock. They come, for the most part, from private sellers and receive a thorough check by Mercedes technicians before being passed for the Young Classic showroom.
 
"'The target group is not the person who likes to work on the car themselves," says project manager Kerstin Heiligenstetter. "Our customer wants to be treated as if he is buying a new Mercedes-Benz. He wants the emotion of having an old car but not the problems."
 
The definition of what makes a Mercedes Young Classic has been kept loose as the project finds its way, but includes everything from a £12,500 280TE estate from the mid-eighties to a £45,000 sixties 280SE coupe. Interest centres on SL sports cars of the seventies (think Pam Ewing in Dallas) the big S-class (think JR Ewing) and super-tough W123 saloons. Many of the cars on offer are painted lurid period colours favoured by the Germans in the seventies.
 
If the Young Classics proves popular it may be rolled out across Germany. There's just one catch; Mercedes-Benz UK says it has no plan to extend the scheme here.
 
More at http://young-classics.mercedes-benz-classic.com/

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