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#24 of 411 Re: Cars Rentels [jorg1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Dec 29, 2008 (7:58 am)
Replying to: jorg1 (Dec 29, 2008 6:13 am) www.autotrader.com   Do "advanced search".
#25 of 411 Re: #19 of 21 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars (fintail) [hpmctorque] by fintail Dec 29, 2008 (9:40 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 28, 2008 7:58 pm) The problem is that in most really desireable 2003+ models, you can't escape overly complicated suspension management systems. The last E55 to lack them was in 2002. All S class since 2000 have had them and airmatic has been working its way into normal E class too. In 20 years I fear these suspension systems will be a real achilles heel to these cars, should they still be on the road then. It'd be something to have a strippo Euro style model line in NA again, but MB marketing seems to be on a longterm bling fixation, so that hubcapped manual window C class won't be in your future.   The W210 E55, like the one I have, is considered to be the most reliable AMG e-class, because of its lack of gadgets for the sake of gadgets. Some creature comforts are fun, but they have to keep working after 6 months is reached. I value the same things you do, especially the feel and styling, and I appreciate the heritage.
#26 of 411 Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail Dec 29, 2008 (9:42 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 28, 2008 7:05 pm) In another 10 years or so, a W220 S class listing on a broken airmatic system will be considered a total loss, no doubt. Maybe someone will devise a means to retrofit them to a normal suspension, if it's even possible. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 29, 2008 9:50 am) fintail (Dec 29, 2008 10:17 am)
#27 of 411 Re: . [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Dec 29, 2008 (9:50 am)
Replying to: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 9:42 am) The basic laws of economics will kick in, and they will be cruel. Old Benz sedans won't have any real value so repairing them at great cost would have to be a totally irrational act. And sure, you will find the occasional irrational car lover, but for the most part there are definite limits as to how much the average person will sink into an old 4-door car.   Sure a rare Bugatti is another story-- Ralph Lauren spent one million bucks to RESTORE one!   You really need WILL POWER when it comes to old luxury cars---you have to know when to just walk away, take your losses and be done with it. Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 10:17 am)
#28 of 411 Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail Dec 29, 2008 (10:17 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 29, 2008 9:50 am) The same reason no sane person would restore a 6.9 today, and 6.3 restoration is for the rich and eccentric. Nobody would restore a W126 either, but there are enough nice ones out there to meet demand, and they hold up pretty well, no massive component failure to plague an entire platform like in later models. I suspect that won't be the case with modern cars.
#29 of 411 #20 of 28 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars [fintail] by hpmctorque Dec 29, 2008 (12:24 pm)
"Imagine a roll down window normal suspended tex-upholstered manual-option E-class, with diesels too. The same for the C. Less profit margins, but volume can sometimes compensate for that."   Yes, less profit margin, and the added volume might or might not compensate for that. It would probably fall short. But, then, I read that Daimler-Benz will probably offer its next generation B-Class car in the U.S., and maybe even its A-Class, and these probably have narrower margins too. Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 1:57 pm) fintail (Dec 30, 2008 10:12 am)
#30 of 411 Re: #20 of 28 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars [hpmctorque] by fintail Dec 29, 2008 (1:57 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 29, 2008 12:24 pm) MB has to make insane profits from its overpriced ala carte options strategy. Allowing for really stripped cars would probably not work, especially with a strong Euro and a weak economy in general. It's a nice thought though. It'd also be cool to have a car with an AMG engine but none of the other bling and geegaws.   B class has had moderate success in Canada - but if you load it up it is hilariously expensive. It does exist in relatively lower trim too though. A class...I'll have to see it to believe it.
#31 of 411 Re: Costly Parts and Components [hpmctorque] by NastleVV Dec 29, 2008 (9:29 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 27, 2008 9:30 pm) Hi, I think this would be real competition that the Japanese are trying their level best to compete with the Germans.   New Cars
#32 of 411 Re: #20 of 28 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars [hpmctorque] by fintail Dec 30, 2008 (10:12 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 29, 2008 12:24 pm) On this subject, I have pretty much told myself I am going to keep away from the really modern cars and drive my old school E55 as long as I really like it - not going to give in to temptation. However, once the C63 depreciates to my level, it might be hard to resist.   Yesterday I went to the dealer to get a replacement for my dead sidemarker bulb, as it is closer than any parts store and I don't trust the parts shop books now that one referred me to the wrong bulb. They gave me the bulb for free. Worth no more than a buck no doubt, but a nice gesture.
#33 of 411 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars (fintail) by hpmctorque Dec 30, 2008 (1:50 pm)
Yes, that was a nice gesture.   Circling back to a recent message where I listed the attributes that I value most in German luxury cars, how could I forget the seats? They're usually the best-in-class, in my opinion. They're comfortable and supportive. Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 30, 2008 2:40 pm) bumpy (Dec 30, 2008 3:29 pm) fintail (Dec 30, 2008 6:25 pm)

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