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#21 of 411 Re: . [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Dec 28, 2008 (7:05 pm)
Replying to: fintail (Dec 28, 2008 6:35 pm) Let's face it---if you have an unlikely but possible major electronic screw-up on a car like that, you can just throw it away.   complex high end luxury cars of the 21st century will be......   I PREDICT!!   "The very first cars to be totalled by insurance companies strictly for electronic failures". Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 9:42 am) Mr_Shiftright (Dec 29, 2008 9:50 am) fintail (Dec 29, 2008 10:17 am)
#22 of 411 #19 of 21 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars (fintail) by hpmctorque Dec 28, 2008 (7:58 pm)
I wouldn't choose the Active Body Control option, so its reliability wouldn't be an issue for me. In fact, I'm not sure I'd want it even if it were free. To me, it's overkill. How do you feel about this, fintail, and others?   Am I in the minority in thinking that simplicity is a virtue?   What I value most in German luxury cars are the driving dynamics, the ride, the feel and, to an extent, the interior and exterior syling (particularly in Audi and Mercedes). Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 9:40 am)
#23 of 411 Cars Rentels by jorg1 Dec 29, 2008 (6:13 am)
i need 5 bmw luxury cars all cars must have white colors same logos on each side and have the beam lite in each car. they seats of the cars should also be in white color. any rental service anyone of you know plz tell me   Thanks Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 29, 2008 7:58 am)
#24 of 411 Re: Cars Rentels [jorg1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Dec 29, 2008 (7:58 am)
Replying to: jorg1 (Dec 29, 2008 6:13 am) www.autotrader.com   Do "advanced search".
#25 of 411 Re: #19 of 21 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars (fintail) [hpmctorque] by fintail Dec 29, 2008 (9:40 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 28, 2008 7:58 pm) The problem is that in most really desireable 2003+ models, you can't escape overly complicated suspension management systems. The last E55 to lack them was in 2002. All S class since 2000 have had them and airmatic has been working its way into normal E class too. In 20 years I fear these suspension systems will be a real achilles heel to these cars, should they still be on the road then. It'd be something to have a strippo Euro style model line in NA again, but MB marketing seems to be on a longterm bling fixation, so that hubcapped manual window C class won't be in your future.   The W210 E55, like the one I have, is considered to be the most reliable AMG e-class, because of its lack of gadgets for the sake of gadgets. Some creature comforts are fun, but they have to keep working after 6 months is reached. I value the same things you do, especially the feel and styling, and I appreciate the heritage.
#26 of 411 Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail Dec 29, 2008 (9:42 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 28, 2008 7:05 pm) In another 10 years or so, a W220 S class listing on a broken airmatic system will be considered a total loss, no doubt. Maybe someone will devise a means to retrofit them to a normal suspension, if it's even possible. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 29, 2008 9:50 am) fintail (Dec 29, 2008 10:17 am)
#27 of 411 Re: . [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Dec 29, 2008 (9:50 am)
Replying to: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 9:42 am) The basic laws of economics will kick in, and they will be cruel. Old Benz sedans won't have any real value so repairing them at great cost would have to be a totally irrational act. And sure, you will find the occasional irrational car lover, but for the most part there are definite limits as to how much the average person will sink into an old 4-door car.   Sure a rare Bugatti is another story-- Ralph Lauren spent one million bucks to RESTORE one!   You really need WILL POWER when it comes to old luxury cars---you have to know when to just walk away, take your losses and be done with it. Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 10:17 am)
#28 of 411 Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail Dec 29, 2008 (10:17 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 29, 2008 9:50 am) The same reason no sane person would restore a 6.9 today, and 6.3 restoration is for the rich and eccentric. Nobody would restore a W126 either, but there are enough nice ones out there to meet demand, and they hold up pretty well, no massive component failure to plague an entire platform like in later models. I suspect that won't be the case with modern cars.
#29 of 411 #20 of 28 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars [fintail] by hpmctorque Dec 29, 2008 (12:24 pm)
"Imagine a roll down window normal suspended tex-upholstered manual-option E-class, with diesels too. The same for the C. Less profit margins, but volume can sometimes compensate for that."   Yes, less profit margin, and the added volume might or might not compensate for that. It would probably fall short. But, then, I read that Daimler-Benz will probably offer its next generation B-Class car in the U.S., and maybe even its A-Class, and these probably have narrower margins too. Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 1:57 pm) fintail (Dec 30, 2008 10:12 am)
#30 of 411 Re: #20 of 28 Re: Buying Luxury Used Cars [hpmctorque] by fintail Dec 29, 2008 (1:57 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 29, 2008 12:24 pm) MB has to make insane profits from its overpriced ala carte options strategy. Allowing for really stripped cars would probably not work, especially with a strong Euro and a weak economy in general. It's a nice thought though. It'd also be cool to have a car with an AMG engine but none of the other bling and geegaws.   B class has had moderate success in Canada - but if you load it up it is hilariously expensive. It does exist in relatively lower trim too though. A class...I'll have to see it to believe it.

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