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#170 of 411 Re: The last episode of Top Gear ... [texases] by fintail Jan 14, 2009 (8:51 am)
Replying to: texases (Jan 14, 2009 8:23 am) That's excellent, thanks. I think I'd take the 600 anyway, it's like a super-sized fintail with 1000x more complexity.
#171 of 411 Re: Mercedes CL [merckx] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 14, 2009 (8:51 am)
Replying to: merckx (Jan 14, 2009 8:45 am) They drive very "floaty", like a 50s Buick. But quiet and smooth thanks to a GM Hydra-matic!   They incorporate the same basic suspension system as Citroen used. Coupling that to British electrics and quality control, and you see the problem.
#172 of 411 Re: The last episode of Top Gear ... [jrosasmc] by fintail Jan 14, 2009 (8:53 am)
Replying to: jrosasmc (Jan 14, 2009 8:36 am) A decent old diesel like that might set you back a few grand, but you shouldn't have to pay more than 5K or so unless you want something really exceptional. A 240D isn't going to be much faster than a 220D, I think...a 300D might be the best for trynig to drive in modern traffic. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 14, 2009 8:57 am)
#173 of 411 Re: The last episode of Top Gear ... [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 14, 2009 (8:57 am)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 8:53 am) You really want a turbo diesel. The older diesels are pathetic, downright dangerous to drive in 2009 unless you are rural. If you are say in the right lane of a freeway and traffic has stopped and you want to jump into the second lane, you can't do it safely in a 240D or 300D...you're stuck there until nightfall.   And long hill climbs on freeways, especially at altitude? Forget it. You'll be down to 35 mph while cars are passing you at 70+. Just not safe anymore!
#174 of 411 Sad thing is... by andre1969 Jan 14, 2009 (9:00 am)
both of those cars look horribly uncomfortable to drive, IMO. The seating position looks slightly inferior to my '85 Silverado, where you sit up high, but not much legroom, and a steering wheel so close that you keep your elbows at your sides.   My guess is that both of these really aren't cars that you're meant to drive, but rather, cars you're meant to be chauffeured around in? Replies to this message: texases (Jan 14, 2009 9:12 am) Mr_Shiftright (Jan 14, 2009 9:16 am) fintail (Jan 14, 2009 9:46 am) Mr_Shiftright (Jan 14, 2009 10:01 am)
#175 of 411 Re: Sad thing is... [andre1969] by texases Jan 14, 2009 (9:12 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 14, 2009 9:00 am) "both of those cars look horribly uncomfortable to drive" At least they're better than the Bugattie Royale Matchbox I had, put the driver out in the elements! What's with that? Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 14, 2009 9:16 am)
#176 of 411 Re: Sad thing is... [texases] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 14, 2009 (9:16 am)
Replying to: texases (Jan 14, 2009 9:12 am) That was called the "Town Car" body style. The chauffeur, being of a lower class, did not occupy the same interior space as the aristocrat. Some of these types had a little canvas apron the driver could use.   Also this style made the car lighter and easier to build. They didn't have large-sheet stamping processes back then. They couldn't make an entire sedan roof out of one piece of metal. This is why you see wood framework in some late 20s, earlyl 30s sedans.   It was the Budd Company, builders of railroad cars, that taught automakers how to do large-scale stamping and thus we got the "turret top" sedans of the mid to late 30s and along with that, luxury cars with divider windows and a fully enclosed driver's area.
#177 of 411 Re: Sad thing is... [andre1969] by fintail Jan 14, 2009 (9:46 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 14, 2009 9:00 am) I noticed that too, both of them seemed to be sitting too far forward. Maybe it had something to do with the camera or the way it was shot...I swear my fintail seems a lot roomier up front than that 600 looked. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 14, 2009 10:01 am)
#178 of 411 Re: The last episode of Top Gear ... [fintail] by corvette Jan 14, 2009 (9:59 am)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 8:07 am) Well, Top Gear is the most-pirated TV show in the world... Not that I would suggest such a thing!
#179 of 411 Re: Sad thing is... [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jan 14, 2009 (10:01 am)
Replying to: fintail (Jan 14, 2009 9:46 am) No you are correct. Seating is very cramped in the 600. The 600 Limo is even worse, ironically, and most tall people cannot even drive it.   Again a certain disdain for the chauffeur seems to be inherent in the design of this type of car.

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