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Re: GMPatriot [gmpatriot] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 07, 2009 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: gmpatriot (Jan 07, 2009 4:15 pm)

This aspect of the American auto industry is really a different topic.
 
 We in the "Classics" Forum are trying, in this particular forum topic, to focus on the problems and pitfalls of buying older, used luxury cars.
 
You might want to scan the list of topics in "Automotive News" forum, many of which deal with the very issues you are bringing up. I pulled it up for you:
 
List Containing Topics on the State of the American Automotive Industry
 
thanks!
 
MrShiftright
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BMWs by lemmer
Jan 08, 2009 (6:36 am)
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A friend at work just sold his BMW 740. It was around a 2000 model with 130K on the clock. I asked him a year ago about it, and he had nothing but good things to say about it. I noticed him driving a Honda Pilot yesterday and he explained that he sold the BMW because his new car payment was roughly equivalent to the average monthly maintenance and repairs on the Bimmer. No surprise, I suppose.
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Re: BMWs [lemmer] by texases
Jan 08, 2009 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 08, 2009 6:36 am)

"he sold the BMW because his new car payment was roughly equivalent to the average monthly maintenance and repairs on the Bimmer"
 
Ouch! A friend gave me the same reason for selling his almost-new Jaguar 20 years ago, except he was referring to the car payment on the Jaguar.
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Re: BMWs [lemmer] by andre1969
Jan 08, 2009 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 08, 2009 6:36 am)

Interesting...now that you mention it, I've been seeing a 7-series of about that vintage in the parking lot at work with a for sale sign in the window. I've never been much of a BMW type of guy, but I do like that style. Probably best that I stay away, though!
 
One of my friends bought a used 2002 or so BMW 5-series, as a 40th birthday present to himself back in 2007. I think it only had around 25-30,000 miles on it. Almost immediately, I think he had to sink a couple grand into it. I forget what exactly the issues were, but one of them was water leaking into the interior!
 
I've ridden in it a few times. Nice car. I can definitely see the appeal of them. I especially like the way that it somehow manages to give you good road feel, yet a smooth ride at the same time. Usually a car will give you one at the expense of the other. And some cars aren't very good at either!
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Re: BMWs [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 08, 2009 6:55 am)

My friend's 1998 BMW 750i is a wonderful car to drive and quite frankly even his brand spanking new Lexus does not compare in handling, speed, etc. However, his maintenance and repair bills these ten years must easily add up to over $30,000. Some issues never got resolved and seem unsolvable. Maybe it's his brake light out warning light staying on forever, or his dashboard suddenly reading in kilometers, or in Spanish, or the CEL going on and off randomly, or various trim pieces falling off when you slam the doors. Worst one was when he went over a speed bump a little too fast and broke off the crankshaft sensor and yanked on the wiring harness. That was $3,800.
 
He still keeps the car out back though, he loves it so much.
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Re: BMWs [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Jan 08, 2009 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 08, 2009 8:37 am)

However, his maintenance and repair bills these ten years must easily add up to over $30,000.
 
Wow, that's a crazy amount of money to blow on maintenance/repairs over the first 10 years of a car's life! FWIW, my Intrepid has run me about $30K over the course of the 9 years I've had it. But then that total includes the purchase cost of the car!
 
What would that 750i have cost new? About $80-90K?
 
Too blue for my blood but hey, if you can afford it, why not?
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Re: BMWs [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 08, 2009 9:26 am)

Yeah I think in 1998 the 750 sold for about $80,000.
 
Today it is worth less than $10K
 
so if you include depreciation, the car has cost perhaps $100,000 in ten years for 100K miles, so about $1 a mile. That's about par for high end cars. A Ferrari would cost easily $1.50 a mile to drive if not more.
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Re: GMPatriot [gmpatriot] by lemko
Jan 08, 2009 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: gmpatriot (Jan 07, 2009 4:15 pm)

AMEN, BROTHER!!!
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I had once considered... by lemko
Jan 08, 2009 (1:44 pm)
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...a very high-mileage 1986 Mercedes 420SEL for only $1,500. I'm pretty sure it would've financially killed me as I'd have poured a lot of money into it just to meet my standards as a beater car.
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Re: I had once considered... [lemko] by lokki
Jan 08, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 08, 2009 1:44 pm)

One of my favorite curses is to say:
 
I hope someone gives you a free 1956 Cadillac that needs 'just a little work'.
 
If I'm really mad, I change it to Jaguar!

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