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411 messages, Last post on Jul 13, 2009 at 10:22 AM
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 07, 2009 10:10 am) Here's a question - I remember reading somewhere that Chevy/Olds/Buick fullsize cars added lots of available luxury features when the edict came down at GM that all division executives had to drive cars from their division. This created a need for 'luxurious' models. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? (wish I could remember where I read it  )
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Replying to: texases (Jan 07, 2009 10:14 am) IMO, the car didn't really accomplish anything that the old Bonneville Brougham couldn't have done. In fact, once the Grand Ville name was retired, Pontiac brought back the Bonneville Brougham. As for the Chevy Caprice, IMO the 1970's models really weren't any more luxurious inside than the 1960's models, so I guess Chevy's division execs got the short end of the stick! That mandate may have been the reason that the 1971 Chevies had sort of a Cadillac-ish looking front end, though. I don't think you could get leather in a Grand Ville or Bonneville Brougham back in those days, and I'm positive that the Caprice didn't offer it, so that was another area where the Chevy/Pontiac execs would've been screwed by that mandate. Eventually, I think the downsized Bonneville offered leather, or maybe it was the 1983-86 Parisienne. I don't think you could get leather in a Caprice until around 1987. Market saturation of various features is something else, I guess, that dilutes the meaning of a luxury car as time goes by. For instance, once upon a time, air conditioning was a luxury item. So were power windows and leather. These days though, it's almost impossible to find a new car without a/c and power windows. And leather is available in just about everything but the cheapest cars.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 07, 2009 10:31 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 07, 2009 2:40 am) The first qualification of a luxury car is that it be an uncommon and rare motor car. A car you don't frequently see in the shopping mall parking lot. A car sold only in the cities large enough to support an NFL or MLB team. As of yet, such is not manufactured in the USA, the Orient, or Norway.
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Replying to: euphonium (Jan 07, 2009 11:29 am) Is armor plate considered "luxurious"? And Detroit supports an NFL team.....if you can call it that.  Poor Detroit....poor, poor Detroit... median home price San Francisco $500,000 median home price Detroit: $80,000 |
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Why do people getoff badmouthing anything American? We have a bunch of people who love to tell you how they are patriots ,but they're the same ones driving up our competitors economy and handing your brother his pink slip. The bailout we truely need is for Americans to support their own jobs. The mentality of today vs. post WW2 is 180 degrees out. People learned to adjust habits and purchases that show support beyond their big mouths. Checkout the showrooms as they are beating the comp in almost every category except sales.
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Replying to: gmpatriot (Jan 07, 2009 4:15 pm) We in the "Classics" Forum are trying, in this particular forum topic, to focus on the problems and pitfalls of buying older, used luxury cars. You might want to scan the list of topics in "Automotive News" forum, many of which deal with the very issues you are bringing up. I pulled it up for you: List Containing Topics on the State of the American Automotive Industry thanks! MrShiftright Host |
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A friend at work just sold his BMW 740. It was around a 2000 model with 130K on the clock. I asked him a year ago about it, and he had nothing but good things to say about it. I noticed him driving a Honda Pilot yesterday and he explained that he sold the BMW because his new car payment was roughly equivalent to the average monthly maintenance and repairs on the Bimmer. No surprise, I suppose.
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 08, 2009 6:36 am) Ouch! A friend gave me the same reason for selling his almost-new Jaguar 20 years ago, except he was referring to the car payment on the Jaguar. 
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Replying to: lemmer (Jan 08, 2009 6:36 am) One of my friends bought a used 2002 or so BMW 5-series, as a 40th birthday present to himself back in 2007. I think it only had around 25-30,000 miles on it. Almost immediately, I think he had to sink a couple grand into it. I forget what exactly the issues were, but one of them was water leaking into the interior! I've ridden in it a few times. Nice car. I can definitely see the appeal of them. I especially like the way that it somehow manages to give you good road feel, yet a smooth ride at the same time. Usually a car will give you one at the expense of the other. And some cars aren't very good at either!
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