Last post on Sep 20, 2008 at 1:33 AM
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Toyota Tundra, Truck
Long-Term Test: 2007 Toyota Tundra SR5 Double Cab - Starting with a 2007 Tundra SR5 double cab, we had two requirements: four-wheel drive and a V8. The big 5.7-liter V8. It's the most powerful, most capable, and is the closest match to our long-term Chevy Silverado's 6.0-liter mill. What it lacks in displacement, it makes up for in power: 381 horsepower and 401 pound-feet at only 3,600 rpm. Compare that to our Silverado, which kicks out 367 hp and only 375 lb-ft at 4,300 rpm. (more)
Sep 19, 2008 (7:38 pm)
wake up your the only fan of american cars left. please wake up
#38 of 41 Re: More towing than Ford huh? [idriveasunbird]
Sep 19, 2008 (7:59 pm)
for you Toyota loving Americans, think about this prior to buying that next Toyyyata........
Us Americans will soon have to decide if we want a domertic automobile industry.
If we keep buying the Japaneess cars in five years we will only have them.
This foreign owned auto industry in the U.S. will be a Non-Union, largely southern, low wage industry. While all the high paying Engineering jobs, designers, tool maker jobs, salary position, profits, etc. go to Japan. Do you know who the Chief Engineer for the Tundra is?
Toru Tanaka from Japan....................Not an American
GM once employed 100K employee in this country.
I for one hope to see my kids one day have an opportunity to work in high paying jobs and have a great life.
Yet we are mortgaging are future to buy today Topyooottta..
It seems like we are all happy to be the Water Boys………
Look at what has happen to the British car industry. It no longer exist and we are headed in that direction
Have pride in the counrty you live in, buy american.....
I would Rather push my Ford F350 or pull my Chevy Silverado than mortgage my future to the devil...........
To hell with Toyaootta
#39 of 41 Before this gets too far off topic...
by kcram HOST
Sep 19, 2008 (8:41 pm)
...we have plenty of "foreign vs domestic" discussions available in the Automotive News and Views Board
kcram - Pickups Host
#40 of 41 Re: More towing than Ford huh? [mikeangelperez]
Sep 20, 2008 (12:46 am)
i dont understand this.
people are willing to spend their hard earned money on a product that isnt as good just to say can go to their local bar and say "i bought american".
america utilizes capitalism. competition is key in capitalism. toyota has a better product for the same price therefore people will buy toyota products. it has nothing to do with being patriotic its just how economies work. people buy the most for as little as possible. if ford wants to stay alive it needs to be competitive and offer better products.
mike. Britain is a third-world country now right? Thats how you're portraying it. They lost their car industry so now its a terrible place to live. If you look at british leylands they made terrible cars, which no one bought, and in turn that is why they no longer exist.
I have pride in my country's ability to provide the money i earn, and i have pride in spending it the way i feel is right, its called financial freedom. I'm not going to spend money on a bad product when i can buy something better for the same price. common sense.
Why push your ford or chevy when you can just walk? you'll save 30 grand.
as far as the tundra goes, seems like a great truck, i really like the interior, i mean it seems like its spread out too much but it looks really classy.
#41 of 41 Another Point.
Sep 20, 2008 (1:33 am)
No, InsideLine, Toyota's Tundra doesn't have best-in-class payload. Nor fuel economy. Nor max tow rating. Ford's '09 F-150 does, as a proven fact. Oh, and InsideLine, explain to me please, why if the Tundra is just so much better that Ford's held the best selling truck title for 30+ years? Don't say its because the Tundra was just launched within the decade, because Toyota has been building trucks since the 70's and earlier. As bad as Ford truck sales are, Ford's still outselling Toyota's Tundra two to one. Then we've got the issue of durability and reliability. I'm not even gonna begin on the Tundra's issues. From tail gate problems, bed problems, and just the simple fact Toyota frames, engines, etc. Just not good enough.