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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [mikefm58] by traindriver
Sep 25, 2008 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Sep 24, 2008 5:26 pm)

Judging from the complaints out there against them over the years, I can only hope that prison is the next stop. Shame on GM for allowing their shenanigans for all these years. Sadly, I doubt that this played a big factor though; the problem probably was financial. Poetic justice.
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [traindriver] by imidazol97
Sep 25, 2008 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: traindriver (Sep 25, 2008 8:26 am)

I wonder if GM helped close them down based on complaints.
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [imidazol97] by traindriver
Sep 25, 2008 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 25, 2008 3:57 pm)

I wonder if GM helped close them down based on complaints.
 
I would love to think so -- but I doubt it. I imagine that Detroit will turn a blind eye a gazillion times when you are #1 in the country. That's a lot of rear ends burning gas in GM products. I tend to believe that it was probably mostly financial with their reputation as icing on the cake at best. Most articles that I have seen blamed the problems on the economic downturn.
 
cut & copied from various articles:
 
According to its Web site, Bill Heard sells “around $2.5 billion” a year and employs more than 3,500.
 
Dealer "Bill Heard Enterprises" has been a target of the Georgia Governor's Office of Consumer Affairs.
That office was seeking more than $50 million in penalties for deceptive marketing and alleged signature forgery, but that suit will fall through if the company declares bankruptcy.
 
The biggest Chevy dealer in America, Bill Heard Enterprises, is shuttering 13 dealerships including one in Plant City.
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [traindriver] by imidazol97
Sep 26, 2008 (5:02 am)
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Replying to: traindriver (Sep 25, 2008 6:54 pm)

Some of the comments in various articles when I read a couple days ago about Heard closing down was financial.
 
A good friend commented that a builder in his area has their model home in foreclosure. A large lumber supplier went bankrupt midweek as two builders filed. I may not have the number right but one builder owed them more than $500,000; the other was similar. I suspect this is happening all over the country, hence the nervousness in Washington.
 
I see that paralleling Heard's problems along with lots of consumer complaints and improper selling techniques.
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [imidazol97] by volvomax
Sep 26, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 25, 2008 3:57 pm)

I wonder if GM helped close them down based on complaints.
 
Bill Heard defrauded GMAC, thats why they closed.
GMAC wouldn't floor them or allow it's financing to be used.
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [volvomax] by madmanmoo
Sep 26, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: volvomax (Sep 26, 2008 6:59 am)

Hey Volvo,
 
Where did you read that? That would make the most sense of anything that has happened, but I had not read that.
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [madmanmoo] by volvomax
Sep 26, 2008 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Sep 26, 2008 8:24 am)

We have a Bill Heard store here in Scottsdale.
I spoke w/ someone in the know.
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [volvomax] by madmanmoo
Sep 26, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: volvomax (Sep 26, 2008 8:26 am)

Wow. That is simply amazing. So they were probably fudging numbers and committing fraud on GMAC Financial. The customers default on their loans and all the skeletons fall out of the closet. Wow.
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [volvomax] by fandiguy
Sep 26, 2008 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Sep 26, 2008 6:59 am)

Bill Heard defrauded GMAC, thats why they closed.
GMAC wouldn't floor them or allow it's financing to be used

 
Why wouldn't they just switch to someone else for floorplan. I worked at a dealership that was with wells fargo, and am currently with one that uses GMAC. With all the employee pricing i haven't done a single deal with GMAC because their rates aren't worth giving up a rebate, so it wouldn't be that big of a deal not to use their financing. You said you know someone who worked there, did they shed anymore light on the subject?
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Re: Bill Heard Chevrolet shuts down [imidazol97] by explorerx4
Sep 26, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 26, 2008 5:02 am)

the builder will start over as a home improvement contractor. there is plenty of that work in your area.

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