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My Salesperson Misled Me

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My Salesperson Misled Me by tidester HOST
Oct 09, 2007 (2:13 pm)
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Do you feel like your salesperson has been less than straightforward? Tell us about it here.
 
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Re: Traffic on 08 TSX [mrgold35] by swimn10s
Oct 08, 2007 (9:43 pm)
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I just bought a 2008 TSX earlier today. I was very excited about the nav system in large part because I was told (on several occasions) by the dealer that the nav included displaying real-time traffic information. Since I've purchased the vehicle and have had a chance to review the documentation and instruction manual on the nav system, there is no mention of real-time traffic being displayed by the nav system in the car. I'm pretty pissed right now actually if it turns out that I was misinformed, because that was a big drawing factor for me. Anyone have any suggestions? Does anyone know if it actually does support real time traffic and I'm just missing something? Or did I get screwed? If so, what should I do? Demand some money back or something?
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08 TSX and Real Time Traffic by mrgold35
Oct 09, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: swimn10s (Oct 08, 2007 9:43 pm)

Unless Real Time Traffic (RTT) is new to the 08 TSX, there is no-way this feature can be used on the TSX. I think only the TSX is the only 08 Acura model without RTT. We might have to wait until 09 with all new TSX before we see RTT bundled with a technology/navi package.
 
I had related problems with my salesman when I purchased my 06 TSX. He wasn't very sure about all the new upgrades to the 06 compared to the 05 TSXs. I spent months reading reviews, visiting the Acura website, ordering brochures online, and chatting to folks on 3 other forums like this one before I talked to a salesman. I gave him a few test questions to test his knowledge such as:
 
- Why is there only a 5 hp increase for the 06 model compared to the 05?
- Will any Bluetooth phone work with the hands free?
- Any new features on the Navi system for 06?
- Why do I need premium fuel for this car?
 
Always ask the salesman questions when you already know the answers first to test their knowledge! The folks on this forum were more knowledgeable and helpful about the TSX than any salesman I’ve met.
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Re: 08 TSX and Real Time Traffic [mrgold35] by swimn10s
Oct 09, 2007 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: mrgold35 (Oct 09, 2007 10:02 am)

Shouldn't the dealer/salesperson be somewhat responsible for giving out misinformation about the vehicle you're buying though? The guy who sold me the car told me explicitly that the 08 TSX nav included real time traffic display that was integrated with the XM radio. I actually wan't initially interested in getting a car with NAV since I already have a portable GPS which I can carry between cars. But when the seller told me the nav in this car had the traffic feature, I thought it sounded really cool and worth getting, so I opted for that car and bought it. Ok, so now there's no way to return it, and no way they can fix it or anything, so what can I expect to get from the dealer besides an "oops... sorry". I feel like he should be at least paying me back the average difference in cost between a nav system with out RTT and one with it. By the way... anyone have a rough guess what that might be? I'm thinking a couple hundred bucks. I looked at Garmin, and the difference in cost between their models with RTT and those without is like $500.
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Re: 08 TSX and Real Time Traffic [swimn10s] by dad23
Oct 09, 2007 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: swimn10s (Oct 09, 2007 11:03 am)

Shouldn't the dealer/salesperson be somewhat responsible for giving out misinformation about the vehicle you're buying though?
 
This is a tough one, I wonder if it ended up in court what the actual damages would be? I mean the salesman should be responsible for providing correct information on the vehicle he's selling, but I also think there's some due diligence on the part of the consumer to know what they're buying. I might have asked him to demo the RTT for me or I could have verified it from the brochure or internet. I feel for you because you should be enjoying your new car.
 
Have you spoken to the dealership to see what their response is?
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Re: 08 TSX and Real Time Traffic [dad23] by cccompson
Oct 09, 2007 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: dad23 (Oct 09, 2007 12:17 pm)

Material misrepresentation (aka fraud) is grounds for the recission of a contract. If the poster wants rid of the car, demand that the store take it back.
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Re: 08 TSX and Real Time Traffic [cccompson] by joel0622
Oct 09, 2007 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Oct 09, 2007 3:34 pm)

I am not a contract law expert. With that being said, when you sign the paper work in my office there are about four different documents that have the following verbage.
 
"This is a complete agreement between the parties. There are no other agreements or understandings except as set forth herein in writing"
 
What that means is if it is not in writing it is not part of the deal. If the dealer supplied you an equipment list or if it is stated on the window sticker it has the option you are talking about then you are entitled to it. If not then it is a case of he said, she said, Jimmy shot Sally.
 
Now we have had cases in the past where a salesperson has mis-spoke and at times we have made it right and at times we have ran the customer from the establishment and asked him never to return and to please use another store for any future sales or service needs. It all depended on how the customer handled the situation.
 
BTW I did about a 15 second google search and found out your car does not have it.
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Re: Traffic on 08 TSX [swimn10s] by jb_turner
Oct 09, 2007 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: swimn10s (Oct 08, 2007 9:43 pm)

Research helps before purchasing a car. There is nothing you can do... unless you purchase a NAV unit that has RTT.
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Just curious... by dad23
Oct 09, 2007 (12:37 pm)
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There's a message on another forum from someone who purchased a vehicle that the salesman told him had real time traffic integrated through the NAVI system. Now that he owns the car, he realizes it doesn't and is looking for answers of what to do. Has something like this ever happened in any of your delaerships and if so what was the outcome? I was curious what the actual damages would be if any, and if he should have asked for a demo or verified it himself before doing the deal...
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Re: Just curious... [dad23] by greanpea68
Oct 09, 2007 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: dad23 (Oct 09, 2007 12:37 pm)

There's a message on another forum from someone who purchased a vehicle that the salesman told him had real time traffic integrated through the NAVI system. Now that he owns the car, he realizes it doesn't and is looking for answers of what to do. Has something like this ever happened in any of your delaerships and if so what was the outcome? I was curious what the actual damages would be if any, and if he should have asked for a demo or verified it himself before doing the deal...
 
What kind of vehicle did the person buy?
 
Nissan has real time traffic through XM radio. Every car with Nav will be set up with a XM antenna. The sales person could of told him that. But he would need to subscribe to XM to get that feature of real time traffic.
 
GP

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