Article Comments - 2009 Audi A4 First Drive

27 messages, Last post on Jan 02, 2009 at 7:47 PM

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First Drive: 2009 Audi A4 - From the outset, it is clear that pictures are a poor indicator of the new A4's styling, making it appear similar to the model it replaces from certain angles and remarkably close to the new A5. But to call it derivative is to do it an injustice. (more)

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#16 of 27 Re: Transmission & Misc [shipo] by esf Jan 06, 2008 (6:07 pm)
Replying to: shipo (Jan 05, 2008 5:46 pm) It couldn't possibly be that many years, because the bi-turbo S4 was only out five years ago (2002--I guess six, but not really). My brother just traded his in... for a Porsche C2S! I'm jealous! However, this news has been widely reported, even going as far as more "formal" sites like AudiWorld.com. Or was it Fourtitude? Does not really matter. All I know is, it's probably true. '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
#17 of 27 Re: Manual Trans Availability [admead] by gasser Jan 15, 2008 (5:47 pm)
Replying to: admead (Dec 31, 2007 7:55 am) It might interest you to know that I talked with the local audi dealer today and they informed me that MSRP on 2009 A4 might increase as much as $3000 over the 2008 model. I don't know how accurate that is because that sounds like a big increase. I think audi would be making a big mistake to raise the price so much. BMW might still make the "best" sport sedan, but the comptition is so close now that the most notable thing about a BMW is that it is guaranteed to cost way more than its competitors...a dangerous strategy I think. Replies to this message: bigpapaluke (Jan 17, 2008 8:09 am) 604doc (Jan 17, 2008 12:39 pm) bigpapaluke (Jan 20, 2008 7:55 am)
#18 of 27 Re: Manual Trans Availability [gasser] by bigpapaluke Jan 17, 2008 (8:09 am)
Replying to: gasser (Jan 15, 2008 5:47 pm) Interesting you bring up the price because I spoke with my sales rep here in Charlotte and they've indicated the price should be "comparable" to the current 2008 model. Now one person's definition of comparable could be a "$3K bump", which is close enough to the original price, but somehow I doubt they would under cut themselves by jumping that high in price considering: 1) sales of the A4 aren't that strong in the US, so why weaken demand by adding that kind of cost to it 2) their German counterparts (BMW) offer a twin turbo engine in their 335i for about that price when you factor in a $3K bump. MSRP for the A4 3.2 Quattro is $37,250, so when you add the $3K, you're right there with the 335i. Again, I could be wrong about the pricing, but my gut tells me that prices would go up marginally (maybe 2%- 3%) - not as high as $3K. Replies to this message: 604doc (Jan 17, 2008 12:39 pm) bigpapaluke (Jan 20, 2008 7:55 am)
#19 of 27 Re: Manual Trans Availability [bigpapaluke] by 604doc Jan 17, 2008 (12:39 pm)
Replying to: bigpapaluke (Jan 17, 2008 8:09 am) Not being an economist, I can never figure out how Audi (or any foreign company) sets their prices. If you go to the Audi world wide site, and "build" an A4 in say, Germany, the price seems similar to the US price until you convert it to US dollars. After the conversion, an A4 would cost 60 grand. Same with British Pounds. It almost seems like they'd lose money on every Audi sold here. Can anyone enlighten me? Nelson Replies to this message: bigpapaluke (Jan 20, 2008 7:55 am)
#20 of 27 Re: Manual Trans Availability [604doc] by bigpapaluke Jan 20, 2008 (7:55 am)
Replying to: 604doc (Jan 17, 2008 12:39 pm) I think it comes down to supply and demand. Most Audi enthusiasts recognize VW is having a difficult time gaining market share in the US, whereas the A4 is one of the top sellers in the Europe. So I would assume Audi is taking advantage of the high demand in Europe, coupled with the fact the Euro has a stronger value than the US dollar allows Audi to set more aggressive pricing across the Atlantic. That's just my two cents . . . I say keep the prices low here so when my lease is up on my 2006 A4, I can take advantage of the 2009 A4.
#22 of 27 2009 A4 center console fugly? by skenterprises Jan 21, 2008 (3:16 pm)
Is it just me or is the area where the navigation is located hideous looking from the pictures? It does not look right and seems there is a lot of unused space. It just looks off. The rest of the interior looks fine, but that section looks cheap. Replies to this message: bigpapaluke (Jan 23, 2008 11:11 am) rjlaero (Jan 24, 2008 6:02 am)
#23 of 27 Re: 2009 A4 center console fugly? [skenterprises] by bigpapaluke Jan 23, 2008 (11:11 am)
Replying to: skenterprises (Jan 21, 2008 3:16 pm) I'll reserve judgement until I see it person. That said, I've seen a similar dash in the S5 live and in person, and personally I find it very asthetically pleasing. But it's all a matter of personal preference - you may find it fugly while others think it looks good. Replies to this message: rjlaero (Jan 24, 2008 6:02 am)
#24 of 27 Re: 2009 A4 center console fugly? [bigpapaluke] by rjlaero Jan 24, 2008 (6:02 am)
Replying to: bigpapaluke (Jan 23, 2008 11:11 am) There is no truth to a $3,000 price increase on the new A4. Yes, it will no doubt be more expensive, buy more like 1,000 - 1,200 or so The new A4 is growing by a whopping 6 inches in the wheelbase and will be one of the largest cars in it's class.
#25 of 27 Re: Transmission & Misc [rjlaero] by viso Jan 24, 2008 (4:03 pm)
Replying to: rjlaero (Oct 25, 2007 7:39 am) You have to remember Audi positioning of its lines. You need to wait for the new S4 (already testing) that will get a V6 Supercharged (or turbocharged) 333 bhp. That will one amazing ride.