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#75 of 157 Re: Don't buy a 2008 Wrangler [dashboardjesus]
May 24, 2008 (8:47 pm)
I agree 100% with your article, including the 3 lemons, and would like to add some of my experiences.
My JK hardtop jeep has been back to the dealer 8 times for the leaking roof. Here is it's history from Dec 07 when the trouble started. (I bought it in August 07)
First leak occurred onto the CD player, then onto the dashboard both driver & passenger sides. I was given every excuse in the book as to why it was leaking. Then I was told a TSB had been issued, and they were waiting on parts from overseas. I had to wait 5 weeks for the so called parts which turned out to be a tube of silastic and some 3M sticky backed foam, that I could have bought from my local hardware shop. Guess what, I drove it home in the rain, and it leaked again, this time onto the drivers side window sill.
In March 08 I was on my way home from a 4wd trip, gearing down a steep hill behind another vehicle when I was required to use my brakes. My foot went flat to the floor twice before I managed to veer off the road onto a grassy embankment and apply my hand brake. I pumped the brake pedal several times before the brakes started to firm up again. On reporting this to the dealership I was firstly told it was incorrect brake fluid, then the brake booster, and finally the master cylinder. The master cylinder was replaced, and about a month ago the brakes failed yet again, only this time I couldn't press the brake in at all.
This was the final straw, after 5 months of absolute hell I traded it in.
What really gets to me was the overall attitude from Chrysler. The water leaks were bad enough, but the loss of brakes were treated like," what's your problem, it was only the brakes". I was offered no compensation in anyway, and when I suggested maybe a new roof would help regarding the leaks I was told they don't do that anymore.
I'm asking the same question that many other people are asking. "Why are Chrysler still persisting in selling faulty Hardtop Jeeps"? Also has anyone else had problems with there brakes failing?
#76 of 157 What to purchase now?
May 25, 2008 (5:53 am)
So, after your brake disaster, did you trade it in or sell it? If so, what vehicle will you purchase now? I am still looking after my Wrangler order disaster? Gas prices as well as negative Chrysler reviews definitely influencing my decision.
#77 of 157 Re: What to purchase now? [greengirl4j]
May 31, 2008 (8:59 pm)
I traded it in on a Kia Sorento, which so far has proved to be a 100% improvement over the Jeep. I will admit that with off road driving the Jeep is better in heavy conditions, but the Sorento isn't all that far behind. On tar & dirt roads the Sorento is the way to go, also the diesel economy is a lot better. But the main reason I'm wrapped in the Sorento is because the brakes work & it doesn't leak plus the after sale service is great.Good Luck with your decision.
#78 of 157 Re: What to purchase now? [stu9]
Jun 01, 2008 (6:19 am)
Greengirl, I purchased a 2008 Jeep Wrangler (4WD) Sahara edition with a six speed manual and the soft top. I have been very happy with the vehicle and the only problem(s) suffered thus far, was an unplugged connection for the rear windows and a broken wire on the Sirius satellite radio antenna. The dealer, Douglas Jeep in Venice, Florida took care of the problems immediately and loaned me a brand new loaded Jeep Liberty while repairs were made. Any vehicle, or for that matter, any item is only as good as the dealer standing behind it. I preached and lived that doctrine through 37 years in the mobile construction equipment industry. I am happy to hear that you are a "happy camper" because I am of the belief that working brakes are a boon to safe motoring.
#79 of 157 Re: What to purchase now?
Jun 03, 2008 (12:45 am)
Bookitty, You got what I ordered back in 1/08 with the exception of the dual top that supposedly has leak potential on hard top. I also ordered the My Gig and tow package. Anyway, as it came in wrong and as I had more dealer and fleet dealer drama since that time, I think I have finally given up on Jeep. I had waited on the new liberty with retractable top to come in but since none were available to test drive with that top at that time and as I didn't like base model, I went with Sahara because I have always liked them and wanted to join the Jeep off road adventures! However, with gas prices this high and probably going up, I think I will be taking "Staycations" instead. Thanks for the feedback. I am thinking about VW or Hybrids.
#80 of 157 Re: What to purchase now? [stu9]
Jun 03, 2008 (12:54 am)
Stu9- Thanks for the feedback and tip! What do you think of the VW Tiguan? I test drove it last weekend. I liked it but heard Track and Field off road edition is only available in Europe. The "4wheels in motion" available here is a pseudo-AWD...great for rocky roads and has 18 inch steep angle approach but a very far cry from Jeep anything!
#81 of 157 Re: What to purchase now? [greengirl4j]
Jun 03, 2008 (5:10 am)
I bought an inventory unit even though I didn't want the tow package. I would have preferred the 3:21 axle(s) ratio but had no choice. The tow receiver replaces the rear tow hook and is a simple four bolt installation. The lighting package is a plug in at the left taillight and is also uncomplicated to install. The price for both items is around $100.00 purchased aftermarket. We have just shipped our Jeep unlimited via car carrier from Florida to New Jersey and it is sitting in our driveway awaiting our arrival on June 5th. I am thinking about ordering a BestTop end of trail cover so that I can leave the top down and not worry about rain, etc. There is an experimental automobile being built in India that runs on compressed air. That would mean that it is an "owner renewable" fuel source (if it ever comes to market and the inventor is not assassinated by "Big Oil").
#82 of 157 Re: What to purchase now? [bookitty]
Jun 07, 2008 (4:51 am)
We need Hybrid Jeeps! LOL Have you towed anything with your Wrangler yet?
#83 of 157 Re: What to purchase now? [greengirl4j]
Jun 07, 2008 (7:55 am)
Greengirl, no I have not. I do use the receiver to mount my home manufactured bicycle rack and for a winch mount. With a 3.8 liter engine, I wouldn't expect much towing performance except for a very small trailer load. I am certain that one or more of the membership has tried towing and could answer your question more intelligently.
#84 of 157 Re: What to purchase now? [greengirl4j]
Jun 14, 2008 (9:48 pm)
Greengirl4j-We don't have the VW Tiguan in Australia yet, although apparently it's on the way according to the car guide in the local paper. So I'm sorry to say I can't make an opinion as yet, although its review read well.
In Aussie our main overseas 4wd's are from the Asian market, with the biggest seller being Toyota, although European cars are making more of an inroad.