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Re: Leaky Lid Syndrome [bookitty]
by matt1320
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Sep 05, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: bookitty (Sep 05, 2008 5:15 am)
Norm,
Does the soft top leak? It's a shame that Chrysler has not officially 1) admitted that there is a problem, 2) offered a legitimate solution to current owners, 3) ensured that this does not occur on forthcoming models. An old Jeep may leak on its Road Atlas, but a new Jeep should not leak on its Nav System. In my opinion this is a disappointing situation because the Wrangler seems to be a relatively strong product, yet the Detroit 3 ask for a GubMint bailout. Listen to customers, sell what people want, maybe the circling of the drain can be averted. End of rant. Matt.
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- #105 of 134
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Re: Leaky Lid Syndrome [matt1320]
by bookitty
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Sep 06, 2008 (4:30 am)
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Replying to: matt1320 (Sep 05, 2008 6:26 pm)
Matt, my rag-top Wrangler does not leak. Sometimes after a hard rain, you will get some water coming in when you open the door (no drip channels) but that is very minor and after all, it's not a Volvo. Not everyone gets leakage as I understand it, but enough folks experience it so that we know it's not a phenonoman. Of course, people don't normally report that their vehicle doesn't leak. That is a fair expectation.
Norm
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- #106 of 134
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'09 JK Changes
by matt1320
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Sep 06, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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Has anyone heard of any revisions for the 2009 Jeep Wrangler/Unlimited? Any unofficially official announcements, rumor, gossip, or BS will satisfy my curiosity. Muchas Gracias.
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- #107 of 134
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Re: '09 JK Changes [matt1320]
by greengirl4j
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Sep 07, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: matt1320 (Sep 06, 2008 1:24 pm)
No.. but I have been checking for months since the dealership messed up my order...I ordered the 4 door, 6 speed tranny, Wrangler Sahara Unlimited fully loaded, dual top, nav, etc...after waiting for 4 months, the wrong jeep came in and then I heard about of all the leaks, rust, engine issues, etc.. and as gas prices went to $4, I gave up! Anyway, I have been researching revisions for 2009 but all I hear is that Chrysler is going under and poor quality will continue to be inevitable until another maker takes over completely! 
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- #108 of 134
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Re: '09 JK Changes [matt1320]
by panzer
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Sep 11, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: matt1320 (Sep 06, 2008 1:24 pm)
Not many changes. None that would distinguish an 09 from and 08 except color. The main one is that the chrysler sunburst orange color is available and another color is no longer available, can't remember which one, maybe graystone. Also, the power windows and security system option is now standard on the Sahara. I found this out on a jeep geek website I found by searching for 09 changes over a month ago. I saw a bunch of 09's being unloaded off trains at the depot north of Denver two days ago, so I would expect they will be at dealers within the week. How could I tell they were O9's you ask? There were a few orange ones.
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- #109 of 134
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Re: '09 JK Changes [panzer]
by bookitty
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Sep 11, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: panzer (Sep 11, 2008 11:35 am)
The power windows, remote door locks were standard on the 2008 Wrangler Sahara Unlimited 4 door, along with the Sirius Radio and the upgraded sound system and much more.
Norm
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- #110 of 134
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Re: '09 JK Changes [panzer]
by matt1320
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Sep 12, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: panzer (Sep 11, 2008 11:35 am)
Since I am a geek, what is the Jeep geek website that you referred to? And, much to my disappointment, no mention of a diesel engine option. Once again Chrysler seems to offer gimmicks instead of substance, new paint colors don't make me want to incur a car payment. Hopefully Jeep will post the new models on their website soon.
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- #111 of 134
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Re: Don't buy a 2008 Wrangler [sgtrock62]
by ross16
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Sep 15, 2008 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: sgtrock62 (Aug 27, 2008 1:37 pm)
I was informed that the "Water Doctor" fixed the leak in my Freedom Top a few weeks ago. I was driving this past weekend and it seemed like Niagara Falls in my jeep. Well it is off for round 2 at the dealer. I am convinced I have one of those vehicles that will never be fixed. Luckily in my state it is only three unresolved trips to the dealer to qualify for the Lemon Law.
I have mixed feelings about this as the Wrangler is an absolute gas to drive.
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- #112 of 134
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Re: Don't buy a 2008 Wrangler [ross16]
by greengirl4j
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Sep 15, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: ross16 (Sep 15, 2008 11:05 am)
But a very expensive gas! I gave up on my purchase of a Wrangler after my order came in wrong, gas prices sky rocketed and I heard that LEAKS R US for Wranglers...drive rocked especially the tight turning radius but not worth the issues!!!!! 
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Re: Don't buy a 2008 Wrangler [greengirl4j]
by stu9
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Oct 11, 2008 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: greengirl4j (Sep 15, 2008 6:46 pm)
I read in the latest Australian Buyers Guide in the 4WD & SUV magazine says "Wrangler was rated the worst car overall", in the US magazine customer reports 2008-Owner Survey. So the facts seem to speak for themselves.
Anyway, I have worked out Chrysler Jeep's translation of the words Freedom Top, it means "the freedom for water to pour into your vehicle from any angle".
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