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Honda Accord Changes through the Generations

26 messages,  Last post on Jan 07, 2008 at 10:34 AM

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#17 of 26 Re: H U G E Changes in Accord [thegraduate] by fourteen14

Jan 03, 2008 (11:09 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 03, 2008 10:09 pm)
I admit that the Magnum leans somewhat to the utility side rather than the luxury side, but that is appropriate for a wagon. At 6'-1'' and 220# I do find it much more roomy, comfortable, and convenient than my wife's Acura TL, particularly for long drives when the narrow, highly bolstered seats and restricted leg room of the TL literally become a.pain in the ass! I have owned many cars that were not anywhere near as nice. Many people I talk to seem to think that the Magnum must be a high priced gas guzzler, but drive pickups or SUVs that are much more expensive and have much worse MPG. In fact, I consider 25 to 26 MPG cruising at 65mph with a 340HP, 4200# vehicle to be very good MPG!!

#18 of 26 Re: H U G E Changes in Accord [fourteen14] by thegraduate

Jan 04, 2008 (12:20 pm)

Replying to: fourteen14 (Jan 03, 2008 11:09 pm)
I do find it much more roomy, comfortable, and convenient than my wife's Acura TL
 
Well, you are comparing a compact sport-sedan to a full-size wagon! Truthfully, a station wagon is one of the most practical vehicles out there. If Honda had made a wagon version of my Accord, I might well own one. Mazda had the right idea with a hatch version of its Mazda 6, as well.
 
I'm 6'4" 195 and haven't had a problem in any Accord, however, and I have REALLY long legs. The TL is actually a compact according to the EPA.

#19 of 26 Re: H U G E Changes in Accord [thegraduate] by fourteen14

Jan 05, 2008 (5:35 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 04, 2008 12:20 pm)
You reinforce my case! For 'full size' men the Hemi Magnum is roomier by 8 cubic feet (although only 7.9" longer and actually 1.3" narrower), more comfortable, huge rear seat, excellent ride and handling, lifetime powertrain warranty, more HP, a lot more Torque, larger towing capacity, the same overall fuel economy, over twice the cargo capacity, rear wheel drive, and less expensive than the mid-size TL Type S!
 
But, most important to me is that people really admire my car. In Chapel Hill, NC TL's are thicker than fleas. I could be driving the finest, most expensive TL ever built, and no one would give it a second, or maybe even a first, glance! (My son was interested in an Infiniti FX, so we went to look at one. I swear that the Infiniti salesman asked more questions about my Magnum than we asked about the FX. After a test drive of the V8 FX, we both left assured that the FX wasn't the answer! We saved a lot of money that day!!)
 
Don't be fooled into thinking that because a car has low sales numbers that that means that it isn't an excellent car! By that criteria, Ferraris and Lamborghinis would be terrible cars because there aren't many of them sold!
 
I am not much concerned about what 'class' a car falls into, but rather the comfort, performance, and value that it has to offer! It will take something truly spectacular to get me out of the Hemi!!
 
PS: According to the Acura website the TL is 'Mid-Size' and the Magnum is a 'Sport Utility'!
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#20 of 26 Re: H U G E Changes in Accord [fourteen14] by elroy5

Jan 05, 2008 (9:10 pm)

Replying to: fourteen14 (Jan 05, 2008 5:35 pm)
Honda Accord Changes through the Generations
 
That is the title of this thread. What the H*** do the Magnum and TL have to do with it?

#21 of 26 Re: H U G E Changes in Accord [elroy5] by fourteen14

Jan 06, 2008 (6:57 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 05, 2008 9:10 pm)
I began this thread to mention how the Accord has changed (in some ways for the better, and in some ways for the worse) since 1976. That led us to how the new and old Accords compare to the my recent TL, Azera, and Magnum. Jncars was kind enough to bring the sad news that the Magnum may be discontinued. In my sadness at the news I pointed out how, in ways important to me, the Magnum has been superior to the TL and even the FX. ( In case you didn't know it, the TL is made by Honda as an upscale alternative to the Accord.)
 
Which brings us to you jumping in with absolutely nothing positive or constructive to say about anything except that you don't like the direction that the thread has gone! This thread is open for comments, hopefully of a useful or informatative nature. However, if you only want to whine, please do it somewhere else!!
 
Anyone with interesting or humorous info about old Accords or related info, or even unrelated info, are more than welcome, but please keep your whining to yourself!!
 
I just read a review about the new Smart ForTwo, and that it does 0-60 in the 12s, and how that was so glacial! I wonder how many "76 Accords, which did 0-60 in the 15s, would be sold today if Honda was building them today!!?? As benjaminh pointed out, in those days anything below 12 was "considered almost sports car territory"!! Today's tiny ForTwo only weighs about 200# less than the '76 Accord! Does anyone have the weight and other specs for the '76 Civic??
 
We could increase MPG today by cutting weight, size, and horsepower, but would a light, small, slow car sell?? The new Accord is heavier and more powerful than my '95 Pontiac Gran Prix GTP, which was a big, high performance car only a few years ago!!
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#22 of 26 Re: H U G E Changes in Accord [fourteen14] by pat

Jan 07, 2008 (9:47 am)

Replying to: fourteen14 (Jan 06, 2008 6:57 pm)
Actually, since the subject has been defined as Accord Changes Through the Generations, we should keep to that. Other vehicles don't really fit, ya know?
 
And yes, I realize that the topic was slightly altered from when you started this, but the point of that was to make the conversation more inclusive and more sustainable. So that's where we need to focus.

#23 of 26 Re: H U G E Changes in Accord [pat] by thegraduate

Jan 07, 2008 (9:49 am)

Replying to: pat (Jan 07, 2008 9:47 am)
Can we speculate about what we may see for 2010/2011 Accords? I'm curious about some thoughts on that, but don't know where to put it!

#24 of 26 Re: H U G E Changes in Accord [thegraduate] by pat

Jan 07, 2008 (9:50 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 07, 2008 9:49 am)
Please do!

#25 of 26 Mid-Cycle Changes by thegraduate

Jan 07, 2008 (9:55 am)

Replying to: pat (Jan 07, 2008 9:50 am)
Does anyone want to speculate or throw out some ideas for changes we may see over time in the future of this generation Accord?
 
I'd think they'll eventually have just one version of the 2.4L. Either that, or up the power of the EX model when the new TSX is introduced, upping the EX to 205 or so, with the LX getting the 190hp version. If it is cost effective, it would be a likely change I believe.
 
I'd also like to see LEDs reintroduced to the Accord.

#26 of 26 Re: Mid-Cycle Changes [thegraduate] by tankbeans

Jan 07, 2008 (10:34 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 07, 2008 9:55 am)
Personally, I think the new exterior is all wrong. Not trying to offend anyone here, but I think it looks like it doesn't quite know what it is.
 
If I were to buy one, affording it is another story, but I'd take the taillights on the sedan and match them with the headlights on the coupe. My preferences are just that preferences, but other than that I'll be curious to know how mileage will be when they bring the diesels over here. Although diesels aren't really a good fit for the midwest, diesel tends to get up in the winter if you're not careful. Maybe that's changed can't be sure.
 
Anyway as for changes I'd like to see, other than those pointed out above, would perhaps be stupid, but I think they might get some sales out of it. Anyway my idea would be to do what Ford did and badge a crossover, as well as the car itself, with the Accord name, well Ford did it with the Taurus, but you know what I mean. The mechanical aspects should stay the same or similar, but I know that crossovers can get decent mileage. I've seen people in here talk about more versatility, what could be more versatile than a crossover, slightly larger than a CR-V, but smaller than the Pilot and not as weird as the Element.
  
Again I'm not trying to offend anyone, but ideas are ideas.

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