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Vans & Minivans Chrysler Town & Country/Dodge Grand Caravan 2008 Town and Country - big quality control issues
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Replying to: skytianb (Aug 12, 2009 6:03 pm) 
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Replying to: usavet (Nov 12, 2008 11:14 am)  Yes, I too was frustrated when I found out my front brakes were shot at 9,500 miles. I bought my car in March of 08 and for the first 4 months it was in the shop for one reason or another. I had a 2000 Dodge van and never had problems with brakes or anything else. This one is falling apart. I already had struts, brakes numerous replacements of the radio which goes out for who knows why. The panels keep coming loose, the doors do not shut as it shows the obstacle message, it makes a siren like noise when driving, the defrosters, hmm of course they cannot duplicate the problem as it takes over a 1/2 hour to get to the dealer it's like driving a clunker. I cannot afford to trade mine in, if I could I would
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We have a 2009 Town & Country 4.0L, and it's been great. The power doors are a little overly sensitive when closing, so occasionally they'll reverse for fear they might hurt someone! Silly. Other than that it's been smooth and nice. I would like to have seen more anti-roll, but I guess it's a minivan, not a sport sedan... I actually got the 4.0L on this 25th anniversary Touring edition, which apparently is kinda rare? I guess the 4.0L is mostly on the Limiteds. The 4.0L engine and 6-speed automatic are a great combination -- you can floor it from a stoplight and it acts like a wannabe racecar, zipping through the gears and accelerating to 60 in about 7.8 seconds. Compare published 0-60 times for current model year vans, and you'll find that the Town & Country with the 4.0L can actually outrun Odyssey's & Siennas. The 4.0L isn't the most powerful engine in its class, but it's very torquey. It has a long stroke for improved low rpm torque, which is exactly what's needed for a heavy VAN for engine response around town. The 4.0-liter V-6 engine improves the torque curve in the low- to mid-range for more pep during acceleration from idle. Focusing more on low- to mid-range means that maximum power of 251hp is not as high as you might expect from a 4.0L engine, but a few horsepower at the top end won't be missed in a VAN, while the broad torque curve throughout the rpm range is really appreciated. But the 4.0L engine is just an enlargement of the 3.5L SOHC V6 and is just a stopgap measure until the new Pentastar engine line debuts shortly. Keep in mind that the 2.7L DOHC, the 3.3/3.8L pushrod engines, and the 3.5L/4.0L SOHC engines are basically all the same engine family. (Only the 3.7L V6 seen in Durango and Liberty is different, being based off of the 4.7L V8.) So we'll have a whole new "Pentastar" V6 engine family to replace all these V6's very soon! Several sizes will be available including a 3.6L with 280hp and 260 lb-ft of torque. and possibly a future 4.0L.
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| Have a 2008 Town&Country Limited. Problems from the start. Air conditioner not cooling properly, sliding doors rattle, don't close properly at times, rear power seat fails constantly, Uconnect resets, NAV system looses my data. Just picked it up from service. They flashed the computers with updates. Checked the air conditioner for trouble codes (none reported). Doors still rattle as bad as ever, back seat still does not recline properly and the air conditioner blows cold then warm air (cycles). When the vehicle was brand new I had none of these problems. All started at about 1,000 miles. I now have 10,0000 miles. Will be going back to the dealer again next week for another shot. If problems persist I'll give them one more shot. Then on to a lemon law attorney. | |
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Replying to: snowwolf777 (Jul 15, 2009 7:46 am) Secondly, my airconditioner has been blowing cold then warm air. I understand the cycling part but not like this. When the van was brand new the air was coming out constantly cold. Now it cycles (badly) especially in hot weather. The dealer said he could find nothing wrong. BULLCRAP! The Van is going back in next week. Finally, the doors creak (and don't close properly sometimes) the rear power seat does not work properly and the DVD Nav and Uconnect phone resets while driving. The supposedly flashed the computers so I'll see if those problems are fixed. In the meantime based on the complaints I see on this thread (I'm having most of these problems and expect to have others) I'm starting to look at lemon law possibilities. This Van costing $40,000 should not have these issues. As someone said earlier on this Thread: THE T&C IS A REAL PIECE OF SH*&^T!!! |
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Sounds like the 2008's really had issues. Based on our 2009 model they seem to have been addressed but we'll see!
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Replying to: intrepidacious (Aug 17, 2009 5:12 am) I'm bringing my 08 back for service this week to fix air-conditioner (blows cold then warm air) and rear power seat still does not work right. Doors still creak (a little). NAV/Uconnect seems to work now (after they flashed the computers with updates) but we'll see in the longer term. Good luck with your 09. I'll post once I get my vehicle back. |
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Replying to: snowwolf777 (Jul 15, 2009 7:46 am) At 4,000 miles (and 2 months later) my brakes started makeing a "crunching" noise. Took it in and they say nothing wrong. Took it back a few more times and still nothing wrong. When I took for a routine oil change in April, guess what.... the brakes were at 15%!!!!!! They didn't get like that overnight and I had to wait a couple weeks as they were on backorder but the dealership ate that. I hate it but I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. So the brakes were replaced Mid may 09 and have been making the "crunching" noise again for the past month. I drive "highway" miles so I don't do the stop and go very much to need 2 sets of brakes at 33,000 miles and a few months apart! Other issues: 1. the 3rd row seat got stuck and would not go into "stow" position.. Had that fixed. 2. the sliding doors don't close all the way and reverse for an "obstacle" when there is no obstacle. I have taken it to the dealership several times but they can't find anything wrong. 3. the FM radio holds the presets but the Satellite radio loses the presets and has to be reentered every couple of months. 4. Gas mileage is horrible and like I said I drive highway miles to and from work. 5. it shows the smallest smudge! Not easy to clean either and all kinds of debris falls into the storage space where the stow n go table is. It's really hard to clean up! 6. When I turn to back up out of the carport, it makes a loud grinding noise... Does anyone else have this issue???? 7. The other night I put the key in the ignition and it wouldn't start. So I took it out and tried it again and it started. Wouldn't have thought a whole lot about it but it happened again the VERY next day at walmart.... Any ideas on this one???? I'm sure there are plenty more problems. The only good thing about it is the backseat tv for the kids and the built in booster seats. I'm sickened every day I have to get in and drive it when I think about all the money I am paying and it's a piece of crap!!!! If I didn't owe so much I would trade it in without a second thought.
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Replying to: jo_cole23 (Aug 17, 2009 9:42 pm) Sounds like you have my TWIN 2008 T&C. Almost every problem you are experiencing I've already had and attempting to get the dealer to fix (see my post Aug 14th). I'm going back this week to get my air-cond fixed (cycles cool then warm). First time the dealer said there were no error codes so nothing was done. Thanks for sharing your situation about the air. Hopefully the dealer will get it fixed after I give them my 2 cents. My back power seat still "sticks". The first time I brought it in the dealer claimed it was a switch problem. Didn't fix it as it still sticks. Going back for repairs (second time). DOORS: I talked to a buddy of mine and he said that there are adjustment pins on the door assembly which need to be tightenend. Apparently the dealer "bozo's" don't know how to do the adjustment properly. There are Chrysler TSB's regarding this problem but the service tech idiots probably don't know how to read. I had the same problem with my NAV/radio/Uconnect. Kept zeroing out my data. Dealer flashed the computer. Am still evaluating if this fixed the problem. BRAKE problem is going to be a BIG issue with 2008 T&C. Everybody I've spoken with (including dealer service tech's) admit it's a problem (can only expect 15-20K miles between brake jobs). Apparently there was a design flaw in the rotors being too small for this van. Rumor has it they adjusted roter size for the 2009 T&C but that does not help me with my 2008. I have 10,000 miles (all highway miles) and my brakes are 60% gone. WHAT BULLCRAP!!!!!!! The only good thing about my van is that I'm getting decent gas mileage. I typically get 24 MPG on the highway and about 19 around town. Not sure why your mileage is so poor. Oh and BTW: bozo at dealer had no clue how to reset the oil change warning (have to turn key on pump pedal 3 times, turn key off). It's actually quite fun to call these service people assholes and then show them how to do it (I read my manual and figured it out). NO WONDER IT TAKES 4 CHRYSLER SERVICE TECHS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO AN OIL CHANGE! Finally, why would you leave out a dipstick to check transmission fluid?????? I'M DONE ..... |
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I just joined these forums today to see if I could find anyone else with the same problems as I have...I did. I bought the town and country limited with the 4.0l engine. My problems have been never ending. 1) new brakes  17000 kms the old ones sounded like a diesel bus 2) new mygig 3)fabric on the back of 3rd bench seat replaced because it wouldn't stay attached 4) new starter old one wouldn't turn over and sounded like a 1970 car 5) new EGR valve 6) new battery 7) new engine My van was also stalling while driving. It caused me to rear end someone and I have stalled in the middle of an intersection while turning and had traffic heading towards me. I was lucky that they were able to avoid me but that situaltion almost caused other people to have accidents. My van stalled about a dozen times until i heard a loud racket under the hood and stalled...this is when they realized they had to replace the engine. My Town and Country has been in the shop and I have been without it for a month. I have also had the problems with the doors not closing when there is nothing obstructing it. Before the engine died I had strange sound when turning the wheels all the way to the left or right. I suspect it is the power steering. I am extremely dissappointed with this van, and more dissappointed with the customer service I have had from chrysler. I have been told from the dealers and Chrysler that 99.9% of these vans have had no problems and I am the unfourtunate one. Reading these forums I have discovered I am not alone. I am so angry that I have paid so much money for a Van and it has compromised the safety of my family and others. I do not want this van anymore it makes me sick !!!!!!!! 
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