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Re: Venza vs 2010 Outback [ecotrklvr]
by petl
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Jun 02, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (May 30, 2009 2:55 pm)
I thought Toyota owned 51% of Subaru?
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- #982 of 1078
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Re: Venza vs 2010 Outback [petl]
by ecotrklvr
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Jun 02, 2009 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: petl (Jun 02, 2009 2:22 pm)
Could be. Wiki says 16.5%. What's your source?
Also, any comment on the subject of the post - is Venza a twin of the 2010 Outback? Distant cousin?
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Re: Venza vs 2010 Outback [petl]
by kdhspyder
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Jun 03, 2009 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: petl (Jun 02, 2009 2:22 pm)
I believe that Toyota bought out GM's 16.5% share of Subaru. GM sold it to parent Fuji Industries which then resold it to Toyota.
The first benefit was that about 100,000 Camry units were able to be offloaded to the Subie plant in Indiana instead of imported from Japan.
The 2nd benefit is that Subaru is making a small RWD sportster that will be marketed by both companies.
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Re: Venza vs 2010 Outback [ecotrklvr]
by petl
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Jun 03, 2009 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Jun 02, 2009 2:44 pm)
My memory must be going. I thought I had read the 51% info in a business magazine.
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Re: Venza vs 2010 Outback [kdhspyder]
by petl
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Jun 03, 2009 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 03, 2009 11:26 am)
Thanks for the clarification on Toyota's share.
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Re: Venza vs 2010 Outback [ecotrklvr]
by volkov
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Jun 03, 2009 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Jun 02, 2009 2:44 pm)
More of that convergent design effect than anything else. The engines, transmissions and AWD design are all completely different between the two.
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Re: Honda CUV [milkman1]
by qs933
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Jun 06, 2009 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: milkman1 (Mar 03, 2009 5:15 pm)
For those still curious about Honda's Venza-like crossover (to be named CrossTour), there are new spy photos here. There's a shot of the dash as well as the cargo area.
My opinion (and take it for what it's worth as a Venza owner): I hope it looks better in person than it does in photos. That side profile makes the rear look huge (look at the size of the rear bumper!).
I prefer the wagon-like profile of the Venza versus the coupe-hatchback approach Honda is taking. Note that the cargo area is shallow enough to use a fixed cargo cover (as opposed to the Venza's window-shade style cover).
To me, the CrossTour looks like a bigger Insight or Prius, while the Venza looks like a giant Matrix.
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Re: Honda CUV [qs933]
by roho1
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Jun 06, 2009 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: qs933 (Jun 06, 2009 5:27 pm)
What is it crossing over from? It looks like a fast back Accord. I'm disappointed, was hoping Honda was bringing over the Tourer which was more like the Venza concept.
Is that an Aztec like rear window I see? If this is Honda's answer to the Venza they have missed the boat.
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Re: Venza vs 2010 Outback [volkov]
by ecotrklvr
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Jun 09, 2009 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Jun 03, 2009 3:40 pm)
True. I like the 2.7L in the Venza, but like the option the Subie offers of 6-speed manual or CVT. The AWD as well. Not forgetting the Venza's undesirable factory wheel/tire combo on the 4-cyl.
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Re: Venza vs 2010 Outback [ecotrklvr]
by rdeason
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Jun 09, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Jun 09, 2009 7:40 am)
I saw a red 4 cylinder today. The only styling miscue is the single exhaust. It looks unbalanced. I don't know what you mean by undesirable tire/wheel combo. They look great. I drive a loaded V-6 with the 20" wheels and not only do they look great but the ride is fine. Recently did a 1400 mile round trip and had no complaints. And some of the turnpike roads in Florida are anything but silky smooth. As far as replacement cost the prices are not bad now and I am sure they will get even better as more 20" wheel vehicle are on the market. Subarus are great vehicles having owned them but they do not have anything as large and as luxurious as the Venza. I purchased mine for 4M off the sticker and also got a great trade on my 2007 Camry XLE V-6. I hope you enjoy whatever vehicle you purchase.
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