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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Venza, Car Comparisons, Wagon, SUV


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the Venza by nippononly
Jan 15, 2008 (8:49 am)
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looks so much more appealing to me (in so many ways) than the Highlander. Thanks, alpha, for the roof height numbers. So the roof is about 5 inches lower. Should do wonders for handling improvement/top-heaviness reduction.
 
Is it an actual hatchback, or is there a rear deck behind those back seats?
 
As for the 2.7, the current 2.4 makes 160+ lb-ft, so I would think it is not a stretch to imagine that the 2.7 will make at least 180 lb-ft, same as the engine in the Taco. It might be slightly reduced if they have to tack on more downstream stuff to reduce smog emissions.
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Re: the Venza [nippononly] by mackabee
Jan 15, 2008 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 15, 2008 8:49 am)

Go to the pressroom, there's plenty of pics there. link title
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Re: the Venza [nippononly] by la4mead
Jan 15, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 15, 2008 8:49 am)

Very appealing at first look, indeed. Thanks Macabee for the link with lots of specifics. It looks so much like the RX, I wonder how closely related it is.
 
I noticed that it has a (light-duty, but rated nonetheless) 3500# tow rating (with V6), which is a plus.. even if you never tow, at least you know the mechanicals were engineered with an extra margin of duty in mind. And even better, that killer sunroof (very important to me).
 
Since they are giving the impression of "sporty" handling, I hope it's true. At nearly 190" long, and well into the 60's tall, it's still a bit bulkier than I'd like. Maybe they will offer an "SE" or a model with handling package and possibly lower ride height, like the Camry.
 
I don't think there's anything wrong with a Camry-based wagon, as long as it's offered with a better handling package than a typical LE with the marshmallow, pillow-top bed ride that tips around curves. But this "crossover" still seems aimed at SUV buyers looking for increased ground clearance; still a bit on the tall side, rather than those looking for sportier, more fuel efficient alternatives.
 
Come on Toyota/Lexus: Where are our (U.S.) sporty wagons? Even in limited numbers, it's not like ALL Americans want the same thing (SUV's, Sedans, and bigger is better?) and there are buyers.
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Re: the Venza [la4mead] by paisan
Jan 15, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: la4mead (Jan 15, 2008 10:30 am)

They had a sporty wagon, the IS300, however it didn't sell well. Subaru dropped the LGT Wagon due to lack of sales....
 
-mike
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Re: the Venza [paisan] by wc1
Jan 15, 2008 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 15, 2008 10:44 am)

If I can come to grips with that hideous-looking console/shifter AND if this is priced less than an equally equipped Highlander AND if it gets better mileage than the Highlander, this Venza is sitting in my driveway this fall! This car looks like a squatted Lexus RX and looks to be a better package than the 2009 Murano. I was a Highlander person all the way but the Venza at least has a speedometer in the CENTER of the cluster and it has factory satellite radio, so it tops the Highlander on my list.
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Re: the Venza [paisan] by la4mead
Jan 15, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Jan 15, 2008 10:44 am)

It's true the IS (tiny inside and only automatics) and the very fun Legacy GT (and I also hear the Mazda 6) "wagon" bodys were dropped or didn't make the redesign for US and that it was attributed to "lack" of sales. However, it's more like they can make more $ off sedans and SUVs here. I mean, it's not like Lexus or Subaru didn't sell every one made, or lost any money on them, and they still have a following.
 
The Venza seems like it will be just another (improved, however) modernized version of the same formula as so many other models available: Soft, tall, heavy (mid-size) SUV with lux features, and perhaps only the smallest concern for better fuel efficiency or enthusiastic "feeling". I hope and looking forward to being proved wrong!
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Re: the Venza [la4mead] by paisan
Jan 15, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: la4mead (Jan 15, 2008 12:59 pm)

Yup I have an 05 LGT Wagon with 5MT and it's a blast. I regularly track it here in the northeast and I love to see the looks on folks faces when they get past by a WAGON
 
I'm hoping that they bring back the LGT wagon in the next generation but we shall see.
 
-mike
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Interesting discussion on the 2.7L... by kdhspyder
Jan 15, 2008 (2:42 pm)
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...over on TN.
 
From some normally reliable technical sources there it appears that this 'all-new' 2.7L I4 may be the eventual successor to the current 2.4L 2AZ I4 which is in everything!
 
If it is all new it would likely be the 1AR 2.7L with dual VVT-i getting hp ratings of 180-190 without Valvematic and maybe over 200 with Valvematic at some time soon.
 
Fuel Economy? Well if one were to go by the other 'R' engines it would be the same or even better than the outgoing 2.4L 2AZ. Now there's a neat trick.
 
1ZR 1.8L in the xD and Corolla
1GR 4.0L in the 4R, FJ, Taco and Tundra
2GR 3.5L in everything larger than a Corolla and smaller than a 4Runner
3UR 5.7L in the Tundra, Sequoia and LC
 
All are tops in their class in power and efficiency. This is a nice prospect for the new Venza.
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Re: the Venza [wc1] by mackabee
Jan 15, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: wc1 (Jan 15, 2008 11:27 am)

I think it's rather cool looking. It is built on the Camry/Avalon platform so I expect a Camry/Avalon like ride but with a tighter suspension like on the SE Camry. It should be lots of fun. Can't wait to see them in person.
 Mack
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Re: the Venza [mackabee] by rcf8000
Jan 15, 2008 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: mackabee (Jan 15, 2008 3:02 pm)

It will be interesting to see what ride quality Toyota can achieve with the 20 inch wheels.

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