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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

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Re: $38000 Venza? [kcflyer] by qs933
Jan 20, 2009 (11:15 pm)
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Replying to: kcflyer (Jan 20, 2009 1:38 pm)

The one I sat in was nicely equipped with leather, no nav, sunroof, etc. and had an msrp over 40K.
 
Are you sure you weren't looking at the dealer's own "adjusted market value" sticker? My Toyota dealer doesn't even bother insulting everyone's intelligence by using one of those stickers.
 
Without NAV but with JBL, moonroof, Premium Package #2, AWD, you should be in the $36-37K range, and that's MSRP.
 
You can cross-shop any vehicle with any other vehicle (I went to look at an Infiniti G37 sedan; that's definitely different than the Venza). I'd agree that compared to the Forrester, CRV, or RAV4, the Venza can be much more expensive. Does that mean it's overpriced? I don't think so.
 
The Venza is larger than all three (10" longer than a Forrester, for example). It's packaged and targeted for a different target audience (there's no true "base" model with steel rims like the CRV, for example).
 
There is overlap -- I didn't realize that a top-of-the-line Forrester has an MSRP of $28K. The top CRV starts at $27K. Is a top of the line RAV-4 better than a base Venza? That can only be decided by the buyer.
 
A better pricing comparison would be with the Nissan Murano and Ford Edge. Both have a similar pricing range and are similar in size. A fully optioned Murano LE tops $40K, MSRP.
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Re: $38000 Venza? [qs933] by kcflyer
Jan 21, 2009 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Jan 20, 2009 11:15 pm)

It has been over a month since I saw the Venza sitting on a back lot of a dealer in Moon Township, PA. It was unlocked so I looked it over. It had leather interior but unless it is concealed in the dash it did not have nav. I am familiar with the adjusted price stickers and this vehicle did not have one. I could be mistaken but I remember the MSRP being 40K and some change. I'll admit, it could have been a 38K sticker which I mentally rounded up to 40K in a case of sticker shock. I say again, I like this vehicle, but I just don't see the value equation. As far as Murano and Edge, I feel the same way, way to much coin for what you get. In the case of the Murano all is see is an overgrown altima with a 10K price premium. At least with the Edge you can count on hearty discounts. I will be interested to see if the upcoming Equinox lives up to the hype. It would be bigger than the Venza, get comparable mpg with the direct injection 4 cylinder, and cost 10K less. And by the way, presbyopia has not set in and the eyes test every six months at 20/20. If I wanted to spend nearly 40K for a CUV I would probably seek the me too cache of the Lexus.
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kcflyer] by md_outback
Jan 21, 2009 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: kcflyer (Jan 21, 2009 10:12 am)

If you are really interested in the Venza at an appropriate price, consider driving 2½ hours from Moon to Chambersburg, PA to Fitz Mall Toyota. They are listing a very similar Venza: AWD with leather & panoramic roof (no navigation): MSRP $35,339, their price $32,176 (that rounds down to $30K) But if your price point is under $30K, then you'll need to wait for 4 cyl Venzas or look elsewhere.
 
As far as value is concerned, when it comes right down to it, the way most people drive (one person in the vehicle with limited cargo), shouldn't we all be driving Honda Fits or Nissan Versas (or Ford Rangers with 4-cyl if you have a business need)? But we don't because each of us has personal preferrences that we may be willing to pay extra for. And for everyone who thinks the Venza is overpriced compared to a RAV4 or a Matrix, there is someone else who thinks it is a bargain compared with a Buick Enclave, an Audi A6 Avant or a Volvo XC70. That's the beauty of a marketplace full of choices.
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Re: $38000 Venza? [md_outback] by denvergirl
Jan 21, 2009 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: md_outback (Jan 21, 2009 12:01 pm)

I live in a suburb of Denver and want a V6 AWD Venza with Premium Package 2 and the pano roof. No Nav. The dealers here say there is nothing in a six state radius with that combination. Any idea of dealers in the general vicinity that will price a Venza similar to Fitzmall (currently $1,069 over invoice)?
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kdhspyder] by roho1
Jan 21, 2009 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 20, 2009 8:42 pm)

I did a quick check in the SE region and this was in the inventory,
 
Base $29,250
Options $9,892
Manuf, Delv, Proc & Hndlg $795
Subtotal $39,937
Dealer Fees $599
Total $40,536
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Re: $38000 Venza? [roho1] by kdhspyder
Jan 21, 2009 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: roho1 (Jan 21, 2009 1:51 pm)

There's $2000 of 'stuff' in those options. On the Toyota website for Mid Atlantic, NY/NJ, Boston areas the top price is $38200 including everything.
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Hey Denver Gal by watkinst
Jan 21, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Whats the rush? Wait a couple of months and get the car you want for a few thousand cheaper.. Geeze they have hardly delivered the first limited batch of cars. Plus once everyone realizes that Obama doesn't have magic powers and that this whole economy thing is going to take some serious work and time to get going - you'll be able to find the car you want for MSRP or less.
 
By the way I haven't paid MSRP for any car - never - nada. And neither should you.
Cool the jets and just wait a little besides its a Toyota they'll make a million of them its not like your shopping for a one of a kind car.
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kdhspyder] by berri
Jan 21, 2009 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 21, 2009 3:08 pm)

Unless you need one now, I'd hold off a year or so on the Venza. It's too aggresively priced right now. This recession is likely to linger on for awhile. There will be better deals. They will drop around 4 grand off a Highlander as a starting point right now. The Buick Enclave is offering good deals now that are way better than a year ago. You used to pay a premium for a Camry, now they are one of the best deals around for a midsized car. I expect that while Toyota may not lower the price directly, there will either be rebates or special trim packages down the road that bundle the options at a bigger discount. Plus, this car hasn't been around Japan prior to the US market, so there is a higher chance of teething problems the first year out. Usually when you are first out of the box you end up getting screwed.
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kdhspyder] by roho1
Jan 21, 2009 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 21, 2009 3:08 pm)

What do you mean by using the word "stuff" in options?

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