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Re: What to ask for... [microwaveguy] by boomdude
Jan 20, 2009 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: microwaveguy (Jan 19, 2009 8:42 pm)

All four dealerships got back to me via e-mail over the course of yesterday, and I spoke with two of them on the phone.
 
First offer: MSRP of $38,529, offered $35,063 (didn't speak with on the phone), didn't counter
 
Second offer: MSRP of $38,529, offered $35,363, wouldn't budge from that (on phone)
 
Third offer: MSRP unknown, but agreed to a $34k offer from me immediately, however it would have to be ordered and the timeframe for getting the Venza would be up to 4 months. If it's started production again (few posts up) then that's good, but there was no real timeframe given, not even the standard 6-12 or 6-8 week timeframe that I have heard.
 
Fourth offer: MSRP of $38,6xx something. Offer of $34,600, settled on $34,500 before TTL, 3k down though I think I'm going to increase that to 4k. So, that's going to be my Venza. Real nice salesman on the phone, going up to the dealer later this week. I'll post the nitty gritty dealership details once the keys are in my hand .
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Re: What to ask for... [boomdude] by LSP972
Jan 20, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: boomdude (Jan 20, 2009 2:48 pm)

Regarding wait times; mine was allegedly ordered from the JAN 12 start-up batch. They said delivery in a month, with any luck.
 
Of course, relatively speaking, we (Baton Rouge, LA) are just down the road from the plant. Probably longer out to Kalifornia.
 
$35,363 was the bottom-line offer I got from the dealer I almost bought at. That's everything (including Blizzard Pearl exterior, which is a couple of hundred more) except sun roofs, towing and rear DVD package.
 
The "winning" dealer obviously cut into his hold-back. I'm just guessing there, but it doesn't matter; I was on that deal like white on rice.
 
Again, you guys looking for a family ride probably will do better to wait for the four cylinder with less goodies. I'm retired, and decided to spoil myself...
 
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Re: $38000 Venza? [roho1] by sanjaysdca
Jan 20, 2009 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: roho1 (Jan 20, 2009 1:15 pm)

I am wondering the same...
 
Here in zip code 92626 cars direct has following prices
Venza with PP2 = 34.3K
RX 350 with prim plus pkg = 33.9K
RX 400H with prim Plus = 37.7K
For an AWD inludes dest.
 
Lexus has better warranty, is time tested..etc?
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kcflyer] by kdhspyder
Jan 20, 2009 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: kcflyer (Jan 20, 2009 2:38 pm)

Sorry that's impossible. Something is wrong with your story.
 
The most loaded Venza AWD with Navi is about $38000. Glasses needed at next test drive.
 
There is no comparison of the CRV or RAV or Forrester to the Venza in terms of interior quality and quietness and smoothness of the experience. All three of these vehicles are entry-level vehicles. The Venza is for someone who doesn't want an entry-level vehicle but also doesn't want something as big as a Highlander. Price is not the issue. The level of the driving experience is the issue.
 
Initially all thee are in the mid to high $30K range. But that's because they haven't offered the base models yet.
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kcflyer] by mvs1
Jan 20, 2009 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: kcflyer (Jan 20, 2009 2:38 pm)

You're not too far off IMHO. I say this often of Toyota vs. Lexus, especially when you load up a Toyota. The 2009 Lexus RX has a $5K MFG to dealer incentive, deal close to invoice and many are seeing $9-10K off MSRP
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kdhspyder] by DAGHVAC
Jan 20, 2009 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 20, 2009 5:27 pm)

Went to carsdirect.com and listed my venza, it specs at 41,512
Had to add a couple of things atfermarket because toyota won't put rear entertainment on pano roof
Thanks all the same for the imput
I just don't like the rx look or feel and venza is slightly better mpg
I guess it just comes down to personal prefferences good or bad
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Re: $38000 Venza? [DAGHVAC] by kdhspyder
Jan 20, 2009 (9:42 pm)
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Replying to: DAGHVAC (Jan 20, 2009 7:16 pm)

On the Toy website the highest-priced model I can build is $38200 but no RES
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kcflyer] by qs933
Jan 21, 2009 (12:15 am)
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Replying to: kcflyer (Jan 20, 2009 2:38 pm)

The one I sat in was nicely equipped with leather, no nav, sunroof, etc. and had an msrp over 40K.
 
Are you sure you weren't looking at the dealer's own "adjusted market value" sticker? My Toyota dealer doesn't even bother insulting everyone's intelligence by using one of those stickers.
 
Without NAV but with JBL, moonroof, Premium Package #2, AWD, you should be in the $36-37K range, and that's MSRP.
 
You can cross-shop any vehicle with any other vehicle (I went to look at an Infiniti G37 sedan; that's definitely different than the Venza). I'd agree that compared to the Forrester, CRV, or RAV4, the Venza can be much more expensive. Does that mean it's overpriced? I don't think so.
 
The Venza is larger than all three (10" longer than a Forrester, for example). It's packaged and targeted for a different target audience (there's no true "base" model with steel rims like the CRV, for example).
 
There is overlap -- I didn't realize that a top-of-the-line Forrester has an MSRP of $28K. The top CRV starts at $27K. Is a top of the line RAV-4 better than a base Venza? That can only be decided by the buyer.
 
A better pricing comparison would be with the Nissan Murano and Ford Edge. Both have a similar pricing range and are similar in size. A fully optioned Murano LE tops $40K, MSRP.
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Re: $38000 Venza? [qs933] by kcflyer
Jan 21, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Jan 21, 2009 12:15 am)

It has been over a month since I saw the Venza sitting on a back lot of a dealer in Moon Township, PA. It was unlocked so I looked it over. It had leather interior but unless it is concealed in the dash it did not have nav. I am familiar with the adjusted price stickers and this vehicle did not have one. I could be mistaken but I remember the MSRP being 40K and some change. I'll admit, it could have been a 38K sticker which I mentally rounded up to 40K in a case of sticker shock. I say again, I like this vehicle, but I just don't see the value equation. As far as Murano and Edge, I feel the same way, way to much coin for what you get. In the case of the Murano all is see is an overgrown altima with a 10K price premium. At least with the Edge you can count on hearty discounts. I will be interested to see if the upcoming Equinox lives up to the hype. It would be bigger than the Venza, get comparable mpg with the direct injection 4 cylinder, and cost 10K less. And by the way, presbyopia has not set in and the eyes test every six months at 20/20. If I wanted to spend nearly 40K for a CUV I would probably seek the me too cache of the Lexus.
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Re: $38000 Venza? [kcflyer] by md_outback
Jan 21, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: kcflyer (Jan 21, 2009 11:12 am)

If you are really interested in the Venza at an appropriate price, consider driving 2½ hours from Moon to Chambersburg, PA to Fitz Mall Toyota. They are listing a very similar Venza: AWD with leather & panoramic roof (no navigation): MSRP $35,339, their price $32,176 (that rounds down to $30K) But if your price point is under $30K, then you'll need to wait for 4 cyl Venzas or look elsewhere.
 
As far as value is concerned, when it comes right down to it, the way most people drive (one person in the vehicle with limited cargo), shouldn't we all be driving Honda Fits or Nissan Versas (or Ford Rangers with 4-cyl if you have a business need)? But we don't because each of us has personal preferrences that we may be willing to pay extra for. And for everyone who thinks the Venza is overpriced compared to a RAV4 or a Matrix, there is someone else who thinks it is a bargain compared with a Buick Enclave, an Audi A6 Avant or a Volvo XC70. That's the beauty of a marketplace full of choices.

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