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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

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Re: Options packages... [LSP972] by qs933
Jan 18, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: LSP972 (Jan 18, 2009 3:58 pm)

In my area (Hawaii), there are a total of five option combinations for a 2WD Venza V6. Two of those combinations account for the optional Blizzard Pearl paint, so there are really only three combinations:
 A. Convenience Package, Security Package
 B. Premium Package #1, JBL Audio
 C. Premium Package #1, JBL Audio, moonroof
 
Not much choice, as you can tell. Navigation is not an option on any Toyota in Hawaii. If you want AWD, there is only one package (most Venzas in Hawaii will be FWD).
 
I'm looking at the second package (B), which is pretty close to the configuration I'd want if I built one to order. I would've liked to have had the option of the heated seats (anything colder than 60 degrees is freezing for us ), but can see why they wouldn't bring it in here.
 
I've mentioned this upthread, but I still prefer Toyota's approach to Honda's, where there are no (or very few) options. For example, with many of Honda's trim levels, the EX level comes with a moonroof (or if you want leather, it comes with a moonroof).
 
While Toyota's distributors will force the same combinations (and it all varies by region), there remains a chance that the distributor will bring in the options you want.
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Re: What to ask for... [qs933] by kdhspyder
Jan 18, 2009 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: qs933 (Jan 18, 2009 2:37 pm)

Fair depends on the situation. Specifically I said that there was one in stock. Sell it and it's gone. There's no chance to make a larger margin from a spur of the moment buyer that comes by and falls in love with it.
 
The key point here is one unit is available. That's typically what most stores have except the very large ones. That will change in a couple of months.
 
Then as to the 'invoice' Edmunds and the other sites always note that the invoice figure doesn't include the local advertising/admin fee which has to be paid to Toyota or SET or GST. It varies from region to region and it's about $400 to $700. Add that and the offer to the Sales Mgr doesn't look very good. Nothing certainly to get excited about when there's one in stock and you won't get another til next month.
 
It's not like the situation with the Camry or Corolla where there are anywhere from 20 to 100 in stock on the lot. With the OP's stated logistical situation of being more than an hour away from several dealers the email route is by far the best way to go. But I think he'll find the responses discouraging or non-existent because the offer is less than what the dealer cost is. Even at dead invoice why would you sell your only piece of inventory at no profit?
 
From Edmunds pricing page: A note about advertising fees
"The invoice price does not include any fees that may be charged by the manufacturer to dealers in a particular area of the country, such as local advertising fees, dealer association fees, or docking and storage fees. Edmunds.com does not track or provide such local fees.
 
If a local fee appears on the invoice, it is an actual cost that the dealer paid to the manufacturer when buying the vehicle. In other cases dealers may choose to write in their own ad fees on the consumer sales contract. However, in either case these local fees are a part of the dealer's cost of doing business."

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Re: Toyota Venza Availablity [kdhspyder] by explorerx4
Jan 18, 2009 (8:36 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 17, 2009 4:17 am)

here in ct, the ads are often, although the only one i hav seen was at the local auto show.
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Re: Toyota Venza Availablity [explorerx4] by macpro
Jan 18, 2009 (8:43 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 18, 2009 8:36 pm)

I saw a Venza commercial earlier this evening while watching Law and Order on Bravo. Up until tonight, I only saw them during NFL games.
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Re: What to ask for... [kdhspyder] by qs933
Jan 18, 2009 (9:28 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 18, 2009 6:44 pm)

Fair depends on the situation.
 
That's true, and as I stated, the only one who can really evaluate the offer is the dealer.
 
You didn't mention other factors such as the holdback that also influence the true "dealer cost." The fact remains that there are a lot of economic and financial factors involved that are known only to the dealer (and, by right, should be).
 
We, as consumers, have to make our offers based on the information available to us. I still think boomdude's offer was reasonable. If a dealer accepts it, then great. If not, and that'll likely be the case, it's a starting point to negotiate further.
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Re: What to ask for... [qs933] by kdhspyder
Jan 19, 2009 (3:19 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Jan 18, 2009 9:28 pm)

We, as consumers, have to make our offers based on the information available to us. I still think boomdude's offer was reasonable. If a dealer accepts it, then great. If not, and that'll likely be the case, it's a starting point to negotiate further.
 
Yep I agree wholeheartedly....negotiate further. Negotiating is one of the talents/tools that we Americans of the 'Woolworth' mentality have allowed to become stagnant.
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Re: Toyota Venza Availablity [kdhspyder] by md_outback
Jan 19, 2009 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 17, 2009 4:17 am)

I agree, it makes little sense for Toyota to really push the Venza through advertising only to have customers turned away due to limited availability (and no I-4s anywhere). I am a bit concerned that my usual source of Venza production volume (the Toyota Georgetown web site) has shown no activity since the week of Dec. 20, as if the plant remains shut down. Either that or the person who normally updates the production stats has not returned to work yet. I thought they were supposed to re-start production last week.
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Re: What to ask for... [kdhspyder] by boomdude
Jan 19, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 19, 2009 3:19 am)

Got the first offer back from one of the dealerships and it's not a complete blow out. Granted, first offer - $35,029, let the hostage negotiations begin. Free my Venza!
 
Edit: Second offer from one of the dealerships, slightly higher, spoke on the phone, won't go lower - $35,363
 
Also, MSRP on it is $38,529.
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DAGHVAC by DAGHVAC
Jan 19, 2009 (12:44 pm)
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36,772 IS WHAT I AM PAYING FOR AN AWD LOADED WITH PREM PKG 2, NAV, TOW PANO ROOF REMOTE START REAR ENTERTAINMENT IF IT CAN BE HAD THIS ONE HAS IT. I DO HAVE TO WAIT TIL 02/04/09 AS IT IS BEING BUILT TO ORDER
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Re: What to ask for... [boomdude] by md_outback
Jan 19, 2009 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: boomdude (Jan 19, 2009 10:39 am)

Don't know if it will help in your area, but www.fitzmall.com (in PA and MD) is listing 19 total Venzas, two with similar MSRPs. One with MSRP of $38,444 is priced at $34,735 and one with MSRP of $38,812 is priced at $35,314. And those are just the published Internet prices without any negotiation, freight included.

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