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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 18, 2009 11:02 am) Perhaps... but I want it NOW! 
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Replying to: LSP972 (Jan 18, 2009 3:32 pm) My Dad & best bud's Dad have both told me to stick to my guns on the offer, I expect there will be a counter, I'd be surprised if there wasn't as well. Perhaps tomorrow afternoon I'll call the ones I sent requests out to. Biggest problem I have is I live in a college town where the major dealerships are about an hour and a half away so strolling up to a dealership gets tedious when there's a chance nothing will be decided and I have to work until 5PM. Good to see that no one's said $34k is a completely absurd offer so far. |
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Numerous pages back, there was some conjecture regarding the flexibility of the available packages; as in, not much. While not exactly correct, there is some truth in this. One major annoyance I had to swallow yesterday was the fact that you MUST pay for the 13-speaker whiz-bang/jump-back JBL stereo/speaker system if you want the GPS unit. As someone who hardly ever listens to anything music-related while driving, this is an expense I could have done without. I also had to pay for seat warmers, windshield wiper de-incing, and defrostable/foldable side mirrors; three all-but-useless items in this sub-tropical climate. But it was that, or lose a few other goodies I DID need/want. We're not talking about deal-breakers here; but it was aggravating. Without wasting much more bandwidth, the villain here is the way they build them, apparently. I could indeed have gotten it EXACTLY the way I wanted; along with the panoramic sun roof option. Can you say greehhouse effect in the brutal sun/humidity of high summer here? No thanks. Bottom line; budget-conscious folks will be advised to wait for the four-banger, which may have a better selection of what you can and cannot have together. I am by no means a wealthy man, but I have a healthy D.R.O.P. account just sitting there, and this vehicle appeals to me big-time. So I bit the bullet and got lucky on the final offer. I did NOT want an SUV, period. But I need enough room to tote my quarter-scale radio-control aerobatic airplane (sans wings, of course), which is 71 inches long and 21 inches tall at the rudder post. And I most assuredly did not want a soccer-mom special (van). I was looking at VW wagons when I saw a Venza... a cursory exam and test-drive later, and that was that. I've been driving the same 1998 S-10 since it was new, and a variety of US-made police cars; along with the wife's 2002 Solara. This Venza is sorta like being born again, in the driving/handling department. Oh, the Solara is a very sporty little ride; but I rarely get behind its wheel. I'm like a kid the week before Xmas. The dealer said about a month; apparently the line just got cranked back up, as he selected my ride from some being built right now. Stay tuned... 
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Replying to: LSP972 (Jan 18, 2009 3:58 pm) A. Convenience Package, Security Package B. Premium Package #1, JBL Audio C. Premium Package #1, JBL Audio, moonroof Not much choice, as you can tell. Navigation is not an option on any Toyota in Hawaii. If you want AWD, there is only one package (most Venzas in Hawaii will be FWD). I'm looking at the second package (B), which is pretty close to the configuration I'd want if I built one to order. I would've liked to have had the option of the heated seats (anything colder than 60 degrees is freezing for us ), but can see why they wouldn't bring it in here. I've mentioned this upthread, but I still prefer Toyota's approach to Honda's, where there are no (or very few) options. For example, with many of Honda's trim levels, the EX level comes with a moonroof (or if you want leather, it comes with a moonroof). While Toyota's distributors will force the same combinations (and it all varies by region), there remains a chance that the distributor will bring in the options you want. |
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Replying to: qs933 (Jan 18, 2009 2:37 pm) The key point here is one unit is available. That's typically what most stores have except the very large ones. That will change in a couple of months. Then as to the 'invoice' Edmunds and the other sites always note that the invoice figure doesn't include the local advertising/admin fee which has to be paid to Toyota or SET or GST. It varies from region to region and it's about $400 to $700. Add that and the offer to the Sales Mgr doesn't look very good. Nothing certainly to get excited about when there's one in stock and you won't get another til next month. It's not like the situation with the Camry or Corolla where there are anywhere from 20 to 100 in stock on the lot. With the OP's stated logistical situation of being more than an hour away from several dealers the email route is by far the best way to go. But I think he'll find the responses discouraging or non-existent because the offer is less than what the dealer cost is. Even at dead invoice why would you sell your only piece of inventory at no profit? From Edmunds pricing page: A note about advertising fees "The invoice price does not include any fees that may be charged by the manufacturer to dealers in a particular area of the country, such as local advertising fees, dealer association fees, or docking and storage fees. Edmunds.com does not track or provide such local fees. If a local fee appears on the invoice, it is an actual cost that the dealer paid to the manufacturer when buying the vehicle. In other cases dealers may choose to write in their own ad fees on the consumer sales contract. However, in either case these local fees are a part of the dealer's cost of doing business."
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 17, 2009 4:17 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 18, 2009 8:36 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 18, 2009 6:44 pm) That's true, and as I stated, the only one who can really evaluate the offer is the dealer. You didn't mention other factors such as the holdback that also influence the true "dealer cost." The fact remains that there are a lot of economic and financial factors involved that are known only to the dealer (and, by right, should be). We, as consumers, have to make our offers based on the information available to us. I still think boomdude's offer was reasonable. If a dealer accepts it, then great. If not, and that'll likely be the case, it's a starting point to negotiate further.
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Replying to: qs933 (Jan 18, 2009 9:28 pm) Yep I agree wholeheartedly....negotiate further. Negotiating is one of the talents/tools that we Americans of the 'Woolworth' mentality have allowed to become stagnant.
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