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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Venza, Car Comparisons, Wagon, SUV


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Re: Drove one tonight... [mary99] by tourguide
Nov 26, 2008 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: mary99 (Nov 26, 2008 12:04 pm)

Thanks. That's a USB port/cable, isn't it?
 
I think so. The connector that hooks up to the ipod itself is wider that a standard USB plug.
 
They probably figure their baby boomer target market for the Venza doesn't care about MP3 connectivity much.
 
That kind of thinking is going to get them into trouble. They ought to be able to look around and see what is going on with the other manufacturers.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [tourguide] by kdhspyder
Nov 26, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 26, 2008 12:16 pm)

Mary's comment is spot on. If you only knew how many Boomers have no clue and no interest whatsoever in the electronic downloading of music you'd be shocked. For the vast majority it's no interest whatsoever.
 
However for those who do have an interest in playing downloaded music, for the present MP3 inputs are the 'standard' because these are the most numerous. If at some time there develops more demand for an Apple interface and that becomes more numerous then the technology will be changed. Toyota is all about serving the largest demand meaning the most numerous number of buyers.
 
This is very much akin to the 'complaint' that the Corolla has no true performance model. Well that's true. That's because the larger number of buyers is in the basic transportation subsegment that wants reliability and fuel economy over performance. Similarly here more buyers are likely to have MP3's than iPods. The MP3 buyers get served until preferences change.
 
It's all about serving the greatest number of buyers.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [mary99] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: mary99 (Nov 26, 2008 7:26 am)

"What does that mean? An Ipod is one brand of MP3 player. Does the Ipod have a unique connection? I guess all us owners of non-Apple MP3 players should be glad they went with the standard instead of the Apple connector? "
 
Mary, the Apple iPOD has its own unique connector. Some vehicles are equipped with it so you don't have to buy an adapter to listen to your tunes on your iPOD thru the vehicles sound system. For some reason Toyota decided to include them in the Scion line along with the AUX inputs which is targeted to the "y" generation and that's all they listen to; iPODs. I guess they figure the older population is not that hip so they give us AUX inputs. Look how long it took them to put bluetooth in the Avalon and Corolla.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [kdhspyder] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 26, 2008 1:11 pm)

I'll have to disagree with you on this one spidey. The VENZA seems to be targeted at younger buyers and not geriatrics like Highlander and Avalon buyers. I would venture to say this demographic is the young urban professional known in the eighties as "yuppies" They have the HD plasma or LCD big screen at home, hooked up to the XBOX 350 and Playstation 3 with the Blue Ray technology. Household income between $80-150k, one kid maybe two. And they all have iPods, iPhones, Blackberrys, and Palm pilots.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [tomd] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: tomd (Nov 26, 2008 8:59 am)

To me it's not a concern as it was explained by a Toyota Master Mechanic the way it works and it makes perfect sense to me. The ECU senses the accelerator to the flavor and pauses to decide what the real intentions of the driver are. If the pedal remains on the floor and there is no pedal lift then the tranny downshifts and takes off like a bat out of hell. No different than the car I drive now.
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Re: A Toyota Sales Person Observations [qs933] by seatoyotasales
Nov 26, 2008 (6:17 pm)
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Replying to: qs933 (Nov 25, 2008 10:36 pm)

The JBL in the Venza sounds better than the one in the 4-runnner. I always use Hotel California "live version" by the Eagles as my benchmark and it sounds great in the Venza. I also test some dance music with a lot of bass and it thumps with a solid, rich sound.
 
There is NO excuse for a salesperson not knowing how to open the hatch or the hood on any car. Trust me, we are not all like that and I have been reading and studying about the Venza for several weeks now. And any sales person that does not know the answer to a guests questions should reply with "Thats a good question, I will find out and get back to you" Perhaps he was new and not really even a car guy like I am.
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Re: A Toyota Sales Person Observations [seatoyotasales] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Nov 26, 2008 6:17 pm)

Heck, you didn't know about the cargo mat and it's right there on the window sticker.!?
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Re: Drove one tonight... [rogeliov] by mary99
Nov 26, 2008 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 26, 2008 5:44 pm)

All the articles and press releases say the Venza's target market is the baby boomer, and those are far from geriatric and far from yuppies with kids at home.
 
I'd much rather have a generic MP3 player connection than a specialized iPod one. If I were into name brands like iPod I probably wouldn't be buying a Toyota in the first place.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [rogeliov] by kdhspyder
Nov 26, 2008 (8:54 pm)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 26, 2008 5:44 pm)

From Toyota's own words it's primarily directed to Boomers coming out of Sequoias, 4Runners, Siennas, Explorers, Tahoes, etc. They want some room in back but they don't need the seating space that they needed when the family was full of kids and their friends. This group, and I can tell you from direct contact, has little or no knowledge of downloaded music.
 
The secondary goal with the less expensive 4 cyl model is young families with their first on the way where the mother-to-be is in a sports coup of some type or an old clunker from college. Ths will be their first new family vehicle together. This group is prolly 50/50 between iPODs and MP3 players.

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