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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Venza, Car Comparisons, Wagon, SUV


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Re: Drove one tonight... [rogeliov] by guy1974
Nov 26, 2008 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 25, 2008 10:49 pm)

Great write up, thanks. Shame the interior plastics are not as good as touted and I am dissapointed if the backseat cannot hold three people (or in my case three car seats).
I agree that they will not be selling them at MSRP with this economic situation. They are giving zero % finance on most of their vehicles and this will happen with the Venza in due course.
I was also interested to hear your comments about the center console, it sounds really good in terms of its sliding nature and large capacity. I wonder if anyone else has had trouble with it.
Any other impressions from you would be great to hear.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [rogeliov] by mary99
Nov 26, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 25, 2008 10:49 pm)

"One disappointing aspect was an AUX plug to connect an mp3 player, not an Ipod."
 
What does that mean? An Ipod is one brand of MP3 player. Does the Ipod have a unique connection? I guess all us owners of non-Apple MP3 players should be glad they went with the standard instead of the Apple connector?
 
I don't know any non-ginormous vehicle that would seat three adults in a row comfortably for hours. And thank goodness. The vast majority of us never haul that many adults around. There are vehicles designed for that.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [rogeliov] by tomd
Nov 26, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 25, 2008 10:49 pm)

I gunned it and it took a couple of seconds for the transmission to downshift and then take off.
 
This concerns me. I find it hard to believe that after all of the transmission problems and complaints with the Camry, Toyota still hasn't gotten this right. I recently rented an '09 Maxima while on vacation and the CVT was amazing. No matter what speed I was going, stepping on the gas more produced instant results and yet, it still has a 6-sp manual mode.
 
BTW, can the traction control be turned off?
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Re: Drove one tonight... [tomd] by kdhspyder
Nov 26, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: tomd (Nov 26, 2008 8:59 am)

This is a personal 'feeling' IMO. I've driven several Venza's. The new 6 spd tranny is worlds better than the one in the Camry 2 yrs ago. Is it a rocket? No but it is smooth as silk and it's far more powerful than the Murano and the CVT and/or the I4 turbo in the CX7.
 
Yes the Traction Control can be disabled.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [mary99] by tourguide
Nov 26, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: mary99 (Nov 26, 2008 7:26 am)

"One disappointing aspect was an AUX plug to connect an mp3 player, not an Ipod."
  
What does that mean? An Ipod is one brand of MP3 player. Does the Ipod have a unique connection?

 
You can connect an ipod to any of these mini-jack plugs and play your ipod fine, but you have to control the player manually, on the player itself. What people want is the ability to control their ipod through the stereo without having to touch the player. This requires a special connector (20 pin I think) that the ipod can hook up to a computer. Lots of cars are starting to come out with this, on a new car it is an expected feature at this point. Ford (yeah, Ford) has had this for a while now. Why this is a problem for Toyota is a mystery to me, or why there is no slot for an SD card so you can load a bunch of songs up and use that instead. I don't get it, this isn't dificult to do, and I don't see why this kind of an easy technology addition isn't seen as a value added item to Toyota.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [tourguide] by mary99
Nov 26, 2008 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 26, 2008 11:50 am)

Thanks. That's a USB port/cable, isn't it? It is a bit odd that it's standard on a Scion. They probably figure their baby boomer target market for the Venza doesn't care about MP3 connectivity much.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [mary99] by tourguide
Nov 26, 2008 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: mary99 (Nov 26, 2008 12:04 pm)

Thanks. That's a USB port/cable, isn't it?
 
I think so. The connector that hooks up to the ipod itself is wider that a standard USB plug.
 
They probably figure their baby boomer target market for the Venza doesn't care about MP3 connectivity much.
 
That kind of thinking is going to get them into trouble. They ought to be able to look around and see what is going on with the other manufacturers.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [tourguide] by kdhspyder
Nov 26, 2008 (1:11 pm)
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 26, 2008 12:16 pm)

Mary's comment is spot on. If you only knew how many Boomers have no clue and no interest whatsoever in the electronic downloading of music you'd be shocked. For the vast majority it's no interest whatsoever.
 
However for those who do have an interest in playing downloaded music, for the present MP3 inputs are the 'standard' because these are the most numerous. If at some time there develops more demand for an Apple interface and that becomes more numerous then the technology will be changed. Toyota is all about serving the largest demand meaning the most numerous number of buyers.
 
This is very much akin to the 'complaint' that the Corolla has no true performance model. Well that's true. That's because the larger number of buyers is in the basic transportation subsegment that wants reliability and fuel economy over performance. Similarly here more buyers are likely to have MP3's than iPods. The MP3 buyers get served until preferences change.
 
It's all about serving the greatest number of buyers.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [mary99] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: mary99 (Nov 26, 2008 7:26 am)

"What does that mean? An Ipod is one brand of MP3 player. Does the Ipod have a unique connection? I guess all us owners of non-Apple MP3 players should be glad they went with the standard instead of the Apple connector? "
 
Mary, the Apple iPOD has its own unique connector. Some vehicles are equipped with it so you don't have to buy an adapter to listen to your tunes on your iPOD thru the vehicles sound system. For some reason Toyota decided to include them in the Scion line along with the AUX inputs which is targeted to the "y" generation and that's all they listen to; iPODs. I guess they figure the older population is not that hip so they give us AUX inputs. Look how long it took them to put bluetooth in the Avalon and Corolla.
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Re: Drove one tonight... [kdhspyder] by rogeliov
Nov 26, 2008 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 26, 2008 1:11 pm)

I'll have to disagree with you on this one spidey. The VENZA seems to be targeted at younger buyers and not geriatrics like Highlander and Avalon buyers. I would venture to say this demographic is the young urban professional known in the eighties as "yuppies" They have the HD plasma or LCD big screen at home, hooked up to the XBOX 350 and Playstation 3 with the Blue Ray technology. Household income between $80-150k, one kid maybe two. And they all have iPods, iPhones, Blackberrys, and Palm pilots.

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