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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Nov 25, 2008 3:37 pm) Do you think 3 full sized adults can fit in the back row in reasonable comfort?
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Replying to: guy1974 (Nov 25, 2008 4:42 pm) |
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| Who has Venza V6 in stock near Longmont, CO, that I can test drive? | |
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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Nov 25, 2008 3:37 pm) |
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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Nov 25, 2008 3:37 pm) 1. Is there a fold-down armrest in the middle of the back seat, and does it have any storage or cupholders built into it? 2. I've seen photos of the spare tire and it didn't look full-size, and was on a cheap steel wheel. Can you confirm that it really is a full-size spare? 3. Any idea when a list of compatible bluetooth phones will be available for the Venza? None is currently listed on the toyota.letstalk.com site. 4. I also saw a photo of the rear hatch completely open and the top edge seemed to be very high. Can you tell me the measurement from ground to top-most edge of the open hatch? I'm concerned that the open hatch may bang against my open garage door? Thanks in advance for your help. By the way, are you selling many Venzas? |
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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Nov 25, 2008 3:37 pm)
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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Nov 25, 2008 3:37 pm) Here are my questions: 1) How does the JBL sound system compare to the Highlander's JBL system? How does it compare to the 4Runner's JBL Synthesis? The 2008 Highlander's JBL is not a Synthesis system and I wasn't blown away when I tried it out. I currently have a 4Runner with the JBL and while it's pretty good, I thought the Bose systems I've heard in Nissans sounded better. 2) According to Toyota's specs, the spare tire is an 18" -- so I don't think it's considered "full size." Both my 4Runner and my previous 1st Gen Highlander had actual full size, non-temporary spares with an aluminum rim. 3) Do the dash and upper doors use soft-touch materials? I was disappointed that the Highlander's dash and upper door trim are hard plastic (though nicely grained). The 4Runner uses soft-touch/padded materials on the dash and upper door surfaces. I'm hoping the Venza is closer to the 4Runner than the Highlander in this respect. 4) Is the cargo mat (over the plastic floor) standard, or do you have to purchase as an accessory? My Venza wish list based on the photos I've seen: - Struts to hold up the hood - Standard rear bumper protector (as opposed to an accessory) Both are pretty minor (and the latter is solved by buying the accessory). Regarding another post here about buying a first-year model, I bought a 1st Gen Highlander in 2001, the first year of production. I didn't have any problems, and the friend I sold it to a few years ago hasn't had any problems with it either. I'm willing to try a 1st Gen Venza as well. The sheer number of major components (engine, transmission, etc.) shared with well-established models (Camry, Avalon, Highlander, ES350, etc.) help mitigate the risk, in my opinion. |
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Thanks for the answers. It's like we're living vicariously through you until we each get to see one in person.  I'm disappointed about the hard dash materials, though I'll hold final judgement till I see it in person. The '09 Murano uses a soft, padded material on the front portion of the dash and on the upper surfaces of the door (not just the vinyl/leather on the armrest). Thinking about it more, it's a little silly -- how often do we touch the dash or even the upper portion of the door (unless you use it to rest your elbow with the window down)? If hard plastic is done right, it'll still look good (I think the Highlander's hard plastic looks good); however, soft-touch surfaces just look and feel so much more upscale. Moving on to the JBL system, in your opinion, does the JBL Synthesis (13 speakers) in the Venza sound better than the JBL Synthesis (10 speakers) in the 4Runner? Even though they are both Synthesis systems, I'm thinking that they'll sound different (hopefully for the better)? |
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My impressions: First to answer one of the questions, the cargo mat is part of the carpet floor mat/cargo mat option.  This is nothing more than a Camry wagon. Drives like a Camry, seats are identical to the Camry, it's a Camry. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sure Toyota will sell every single one they make. It still amazes me that the sales people working at these dealerships don't take the time to learn their product. How long have you known about this vehicle? sad. The guy that showed me the Venza tonight had no clue on how to open the power tail gate or the hood. There is a "full size" tire in the spare tire wheel well but I did not bother to see if it was the same size as the tires on the vehicle. I did notice it had a steel wheel and not an alloy but it sure wasn't a donut size tire. The dash material is the same as on the Prius and on the Scion tC. They call it "rice paper" texture. I'm not joking. The door panels are the same hard plastic now being used by all manufacturers although it does not look as cheap as on the Corolla and the current Camry. About the only thing that semi-excited me was the dashboard layout. The shifter was placed in an optimum position and had the sequential shifter function. Whoever designed the center console ought to be shot. That is the worst design of a center console I've seen in my life. Just trying to move the console cover forward was an attempt in futility and God forbid if you have a drink in the first cupholder adjacent to it. You will decupitate it (pardon the pun!) and make a mess of things. Once I was able to open the console itself, there is plenty of room for storing cd's, etc. One disappointing aspect was an AUX plug to connect an mp3 player, not an Ipod. They do provide a mini plug male to male connector. Big oversight when you can get the actual Ipod connector and plug on the Scion line and not on a 37k dollar Toyota. The back seat feels roomy, plenty of legroom but three full size adults will be elbowing each other after a one hour trip. This vehicle seems to be designed for couples with no kids or as we used to call them here in California in the 80's Dink's (dual income, no kids) or maybe one but no more than two toddlers. The center armrest is the same as on the Camry. Pulls down and there is a covered cupholder box. Nothing fancy. The vehicle feels heavy on the road. I gunned it and it took a couple of seconds for the transmission to downshift and then take off. I got some tire squeal and the traction control kicked in immediately. One thing I liked was the electric power steering didn't feel like the electric power steering on their other vehicles. Toyota must have responded to customer's complaints about the lack of feel. There was actually some resistance as on a sport tuned vehicle but not as tight as say a Bmw 3 series or Infinity G35. Just enough to let you know you are still driving a Camry wagon. Last but not least I still don't like the melted Ford Edge grill look. The rest of the car looks great but that front end just doesn't do it for me. Which begs the question? Which came first? The Venza or the Edge? Toyota had the FTS-X concept for years and it looked like the Edge before there was an Edge. So did Ford copy Toyota? or did Toyota just sat on their laurels before finally going ahead with production? Hmm. And it makes me wonder. This particular Venza was the FWD V6 black with the gray leather, premium package 2, navigation system, and the carpet floor mats/cargo mat option. MSRP was $36,774.00 Oh, one last thing. The salesman was very pushy. All through the test drive he kept going on and on about how they were going to sell all of them at MSRP and that I should buy this one because they were going to be flying off the lot, blah, blah, blah, blah. I thought to myself: "This guy couldn't open the power liftgate even though the button is on the remote and he had the remote the whole time and expects me to just say "I'll take it! at MSRP." yeah, right. I told him with the current economic climate they would start piling up on the lot if they didn't discount them. I said he should get familiar with the internet and look at his competition. Some dealers here have them discounted on their websites already and the vehicles are not there yet. |
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