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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

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Re: Drove one today [luckyme1] by rogeliov
Nov 24, 2008 (10:42 pm)
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Replying to: luckyme1 (Nov 24, 2008 2:07 pm)

Tell us about the drive. What did you like, didn't like etc. I want to read it from a consumer's point of view and not one of the usual mag/rag writer's. Sometimes I wonder if those guys actually drive the vehicles they write about.
I don't think there will be a feeding frenzy with this one due to current market conditions. Fitzmall is already discounting them and they aren't at their dealership yet. That should tell you something. Other than having a Camry wagon and calling it something else I don't see the point of this vehicle with the already bloated stable of suv's Toyota offers. It does look nice except for the Ford Edge looking snout. Makes you wonder if Ford copied the FTS-X concept or if they already had the Edge in the pipeline considering it takes the domestics longer to bring a vehicle to market as opposed to Toyota that does it in 18 months or so.
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Re: Venza vs. Highlander [guy1974] by rogeliov
Nov 24, 2008 (10:47 pm)
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Replying to: guy1974 (Nov 24, 2008 4:53 pm)

  From JD Power :
  
Top 5 Midsize Cars in Dependability
Overall Rating
1. Chevrolet Malibu
2. Ford Fusion
3. Mitsubshi Galant
4. Honda Accord
5. Toyota Camry
  
Not all domestics are inferior to Japanese cars. Also I heard that the Venza dashboard materials are disappointing in their overall quality. Much like in the Camry reviews which criticise the plastic quality.

 
What year was this survey taken? and was it initial quality and not long term reliability?
I've heard from someone who has first hand experience with Toyota and read the opposite in regards to the interior quality of the materials used in the VENZA. As a matter of fact the person called the interior "gorgeous" and said the quality of the materials was just as good if not better than Lexus. All reviews so far state the same.
Since they are arriving at dealerships I'll stop by and check one out for myself after work tomorrow.
Please post a link to the JD Power survey.
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Re: ease of entry on venza [toledo73] by kdhspyder
Nov 25, 2008 (4:30 am)
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Replying to: toledo73 (Nov 24, 2008 6:23 pm)

You'll love it. It's exactly what you want. It's not too high that an elderly parent might need a step ladder to climb up into it but it's not as low as a sedan.
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Re: Venza vs. Highlander [rogeliov] by guy1974
Nov 25, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 24, 2008 10:47 pm)

It is jdpower,com and look under automative and midsized sedan. It is recent because the Malibu is pretty new.
 
I can`t believe the Venza has better interior quality than Lexus, otherwise why buy a Lexus! I am looking forward to seeing on ein person but not all reviews are uniformily great about the interior quality so don`t drink the Kool-aid just yet. It is an individual opinion anyway when you get to touch them and check for any hollowness.
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Re: Drove one today [rogeliov] by guy1974
Nov 25, 2008 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 24, 2008 10:42 pm)

I agree sales won`t be as expected due to the economic situation. ALL auto comapnies are having a bad time with negative sales (the 6 largest at least) and even Toyota is losing $700 million in North America this year what with the poor Tundra sales throughout the year and now the economic situation.
 
I don`t think the Japanese get cars out that much quicker than domestics. Maybe in the past but the gap will have significantly closed - just by improvements in factory design, procurement etc which is easy to copy from Honda, Toyota etc.
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Re: Venza vs. Highlander [guy1974] by rogeliov
Nov 25, 2008 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: guy1974 (Nov 25, 2008 7:21 am)

From Edmund;s test drive: Pros: Versatile wagon body style, carlike handling, powerful yet fuel-efficient V6, upscale styling inside and out, high-quality interior materials.
 
From Automobile mag: Though the Venza was designed by Toyota's US division for strict sale in North America, the link to the RX is quite strong. Considering that the current RX is derived from the same platform as the previous Highlander creates a bit of a genetic link, while the new Venza's upscale interior shares a similarly luxurious atmosphere as the current RX. From the piped leather seats to the matte wood trim that adorns the waterfall center console and high-mounted gearshift lever, the Venza looks different from most Toyota interiors and should appeal to a younger, less conservative audience. And while this new crossover is likely to slot in at a lower starting price point than the Highlander, it can still be had with high-end goodies like a reverse camera, a panoramic sunroof, push-button start and more.
 

 
Organic, flowing, but it's still very much a Toyota, although considerably more high-end in appearance.
 
and the list goes on. There are a few Toyota detractors out there, seems to me you are one of them but hey everyone has opinions right? And by the way, I don't drink kool aid.
 
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Re: Drove one today [guy1974] by rogeliov
Nov 25, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: guy1974 (Nov 25, 2008 7:24 am)

I can tell you aren't a student of the automotive industry. Do some research and you will find Toyota gets cars out from design to production in 18 months. They are the most efficient manufacturer in the world. Why do you think everyone is gunning for them?
Toyota invented the "just in time" manufacturing system and also "kaizen" which mean continous improvement. They learned all these principles from our very own Dr. W. Edwards Deming who helped the Japanese get back on track after we nuked the hell out of them in WWII.
Rather ironic isn't it?
Here's part of his life story:
link title
 
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Re: Drove one today [rogeliov] by guy1974
Nov 25, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 25, 2008 10:27 am)

I am not a detractor of Toyota or any other company. I just don`t like myths to build up - like Toyota makes no mistakes, explain the new Tundra or Detroit makes crap - explain the new, award winning Malibu.
 
Toyota are efficient but my point was other companies will have closed the gap substantially - years ago GM was years behind Toyota (or Honda for that matter) in the time it took to get a car to market. Now that gap is measured in months so I do know some automotive history and being from the UK I also have the perspective that Toyota is not doing well in Europe. Otherwise they would not be stuck in single digit market share year upon year and they would not drop the Corolla name and come up with "Auris". That is the sort of thing Detroit did when a car had a bad history (Cobalt etc).
 
With regards the interior I will make my own judgement, which everyone should do, and I am quite prepared for it to be a good judgement since most companies have interiors of high quality (Ford Flex comes to mind in the reviews). Maybe what I saw were noit motoring journalist comments but fellow shoppers.
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A Toyota Sales Person Observations by seatoyotasales
Nov 25, 2008 (3:37 pm)
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Got our first Venza in this week in Sunset Bronze with the cream color leather interior, V6, FWD, JBL, etc. Not only does this car look awesome in this color (its about time Toyota got bolder with their colors) but the interior is a class act all the way. I was the first sales person to take it out and I put on the live version of Hotel California and cranked it up. Sound system is awesome. The power in this car is outstanding and the ride is great. Not mushy like the Highlander. Not a squeak or rattle in the car. Auto trans shifts very smooth and the gauge panel is great looking. All windows are auto up/down, have lighted switches including the ones on the steering wheel and even the cupholders are softly lit.
 
Backseat is extremely comfortable and lots of room in the back. It has a full size spare tire and a thick carpet cargo mat over a plastic/resin material like in the Matrix.
 
However, there are a couple of fit and finish items and I will have to wait until the next one arrives to compare. Glovebox is slightly mis-aligned and the area where the back up camera is has a mis-aligned panel on the dash. Otherwise the doors shut with a nice thud and it is a pleasure to drive.
 
I am anxiously awaiting an AWD model to compare and the one we are getting in will have the new generation Nav system and the dual pane sunroof.
 
We have had lots of lookers at it and everybody so far has said "wow"
 
My personal list thus far of things I would like to see are-- (and of course these are just my opinions)
 
A black leather seating as an option. Only available in light grey or ivory now.
Add a power cushion extender to the driver seat. Highlander Limited has it.
Offer Auto Rain sensing wipers.
Offer a Dark Metallic blue instead of light/med blue they have now. Toyota seems to be leaning away from their dark blue colors on their cars.
 
Fire away any questions you might have. I am in Seattle so each region may be getting differently equipped versions on the first shipment.
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Re: A Toyota Sales Person Observations [seatoyotasales] by toledo73
Nov 25, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: seatoyotasales (Nov 25, 2008 3:37 pm)

As I stated earlier, ease of entrance and exit are very important to me. Love the CRV because of this. How does the venza measure up?

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