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Re: Pricing [kdhspyder]
by tourguide
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Nov 21, 2008 (4:38 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 20, 2008 7:45 pm)
I'm planning to give one of these a whirl when the time comes, but do you think there will be dealers out there who are willing to approach invoice on these autos? I know for our family it will be important to at least come close to that kind of price point in order for this to be a value.
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- #288 of 1078
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KY
by wstevec
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Nov 21, 2008 (9:04 am)
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Another positive about the Venza is that its being built in Kentucky which will help keep people working in this country. Maybe not a deciding factor for many, but at least something to consider.
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- #289 of 1078
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Re: Pricing [tourguide]
by kdhspyder
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Nov 21, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: tourguide (Nov 21, 2008 4:38 am)
That's all supply and demand. If the public loves it and buys them all up then no, near invoice deals will be few and far between. The plans are to build about 50000 to 75000 of the Venza's. Here is a good view of availability. There are ~1250 Toyota stores in NA. That means that each store on average should sell 40-60 units annually, that's 4-5 per month.
Now not every store is 'average'. Longo Toyota for example is 5 to 10 times bigger than most other stores all by itself. IOW your local small town Toyota store may have 2-3 vehicles available per month. If an 'average' store is getting 2-3 monthly and they are being snapped up right away....
The pricing is nothing more than a reflection of supply and demand.
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Re: Pricing [wstevec]
by rogeliov
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Nov 21, 2008 (11:03 pm)
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Replying to: wstevec (Nov 20, 2008 8:40 am)
Not that type of "special order" if it's not on the menu it ain't happening.
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- #291 of 1078
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Re: First One Produced [joeblack1]
by rogeliov
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Nov 21, 2008 (11:09 pm)
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Replying to: joeblack1 (Nov 10, 2008 4:40 pm)
Toyota will price the five person wagon between $25,975 for its V-4, front-wheel drive model,......
V4???? even the writers are dumb.
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- #292 of 1078
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Re: Venza vs. Highlander [joeblack1]
by joshuag
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Nov 22, 2008 (12:33 am)
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Replying to: joeblack1 (Nov 18, 2008 4:38 pm)
Have you checked out the Ford Flex. I have been reading some really good reports on them, and the styling is very different then the average suv, wagon, whatever you want to call it.
In fact, in the new Car and Driver, one of the editors took his wife and three kids on a 1,300 mile trip and him and his family loved the car. I think it said that he averaged 24 mpg, and it looks so much more classy that the venza. And remember, consumer reports has Ford ahead in reliability than Toyota now.
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Re: Venza vs. Highlander [joshuag]
by roho1
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Nov 22, 2008 (5:12 am)
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Replying to: joshuag (Nov 22, 2008 12:33 am)
I checked Consumers Reports after your comment and find the Edge is a mediocre 8th and 13th in the mid suv category.
#1 Honda Pilot, #2 Toyota 4 runner, #3 Toyota Highlander.
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Re: Pricing [rogeliov]
by wstevec
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Nov 22, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 21, 2008 11:03 pm)
The Toyota rep (on the company's web site) told me otherwise and special orders require 6 to 8 weeks. Besides, in this depression is any car company going to turn away business 
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Re: Venza vs. Highlander [roho1]
by joshuag
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Nov 22, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: roho1 (Nov 22, 2008 5:12 am)
I was talking about the Flex. And overall company to company, they are ahead in reliability through consumer reports.
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Re: Pricing [wstevec]
by rogeliov
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Nov 22, 2008 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: wstevec (Nov 22, 2008 7:58 am)
I have extensive experience with Toyota. The company rep on the website is nothing but a talking head and reads whatever the brochures say. Go into a dealer and try to order one with no options or stand alone options that are not offered in your region or otherwise and let me know what happens. While you are there ask them to see the TVO for December and January and look over what will be built for your region. The number of vehicles and option combinations has already been determined for the next three montsh. They may try to find one that is as close to what you have and divert it to their store. But a "special order" per se does not exist in Toyota's world. Why buy the steak if you're not getting the sizzle?
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