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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

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kdh by stickguy
Nov 10, 2008 (9:01 am)
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I understand why they do it. What annoys me (and unlike Honda) is they give you a nice shiny brochure showing all the wonderful packages they offer. In theory (or maybe another part of the country?)
 
At least Honda is consistant. You might not like it, but at least they don't bait and switch you!
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Re: kdh [stickguy] by kdhspyder
Nov 10, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: stickguy (Nov 10, 2008 9:01 am)

It's just different ways of doing business. The regional preferencing system seems to work for Toyota so they keep it. The no-options different-trim-levels seems to work for Honda so they keep that one. The domestics allowed upwards of 100,000 different permutations per vehicle, that hasn't seemed to work for them so they are changing it.
 
In the case of the Toyota regional system it's simply a matter of communication. Now that you're aware of the system I'm sure that next visit you will ask 'which options packages and options are offered' in your locality.
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Re: kdh [kdhspyder] by roho1
Nov 10, 2008 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 10, 2008 10:46 am)

!00,000 permutations per vehicle may be possible but I doubt they are really available. Unless of course your willing to wait 3 -6 months.
 
I shopped a GM vehicle before buying my Toyota and the dealers have a system where if they don't have a vehicle in stock they can go on line and look at other dealers inventory to see if the car with the options your looking for is available. If one is, then the dealers arrange a swap for the customer. I never asked but does Toyota offer this service to their customers?
 
Another disturbing thing about the Toyota regional system is they offer different rebates depending on where you live. I saw a national ad on TV once and went in to my local Toyota dealer and asked about the $1000 rebate and they looked at me crosseyed. I was informed that was only available in LA. I live in the SE. Another example of customer indifference.
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Re: kdh [roho1] by md_outback
Nov 10, 2008 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: roho1 (Nov 10, 2008 2:53 pm)

Hi roho1,
In my experiences with Toyota, most dealers have friendly relationships and will swap cars when needed to get a sale. Of course, when vehicles are in short supply or there is a particularly coveted model, a dealer may not always be willing to part with it, hoping to sell it on their own. There may be an extra charge to transport a car from a distant dealer, but that's always negotiable if the dealer wants the sale bad enough. Also, I know that Southeast Toyota is a very large franchise that controls Toyota sales in Florida, GA, NC, SC and Alabama. They have been known to have some very different marketing methods and incentives than other Toyota regional distributors. They sell a lot of cars (20% of Toyota's total US volume), so they get to do what they want.
 
Best way to buy a car is to request an email quote from several dealers in your area. Let them begin to bid against each other to get your best deal, you don't have to leave home and you don't have the hassle of dealing with a car sales person in the flesh. Of course, I doubt there will be much bargaining room on new Venzas for at least a few months after they are readily available.
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Re: kdh [roho1] by kdhspyder
Nov 10, 2008 (4:07 pm)
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Replying to: roho1 (Nov 10, 2008 2:53 pm)

Yes this DX is done by every dealer all over the country. We used to do 20-50 DX's a week.
 
As to the pricing formulas that's specifically why Toyota has different regions. Some are more intense ( LA for example ) in competition so it takes different incentives to move the iron.
 
SET has a whole 'nother system because that area is run by an independent distributorship, JMA. JMA is not part of Toyota, it can do whatever it wants as long as it moves the iron. BTW, I also live in SET but I work in CAT ( Toyota-owned distributorship area ).
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Re: kdh [md_outback] by joeblack1
Nov 10, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: md_outback (Nov 10, 2008 3:11 pm)

Best way to buy a car is to request an email quote from several dealers in your area.
 
Actually, the best way is to request an email quote from dealers outside of your area as well. Yes, you do have to deal with transportation costs, but it opens up a lot more options. And even though there may be transport costs and or time, you still may be ahead of the game. Some sites, such as www.carmax.com and www.fitzmall.com will actually post their prices and they are often quite good and in most cases they are hard to beat. Even eBay often has new cars. If you look right now, you will find brand new Toyotas for example.s
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First One Produced by joeblack1
Nov 10, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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First Venza just rolled off the Line
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Re: First One Produced [joeblack1] by radiowave
Nov 11, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: joeblack1 (Nov 10, 2008 4:40 pm)

Heh. You would think someone who calls themselves an "Auto Writer" would know the difference between a V-4 and an inline 4.
 
Do any of you experienced Toyota buyers have an opinion on first year build quality? I bought a first year BMW once and the thing creaked and rattled like an old wooden sailing ship. However, my inlaws bought a first year Lexus and the thing is as solid as could be. I would imagine this is an area that Toyota/Lexus gets right, right?
 
Thanks,
Paul
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Re: First One Produced [radiowave] by ecotrklvr
Nov 11, 2008 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: radiowave (Nov 11, 2008 7:32 am)

If you'll accept first-year Renters as well, then I can vouch for quality. Have rented 2008 Highlander and 2009 Matrix in their first 6 months of production. While they both came from a Toyota Dealer, I was impressed. That's for Japan-made and Canada-made. Kentucky-made may be another story, but that's for others to comment.
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Re: First One Produced [radiowave] by md_outback
Nov 11, 2008 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: radiowave (Nov 11, 2008 7:32 am)

Hey radiowave,
While I probably wouldn't buy a first year car from most manufacturers (especially Audi, but that's another sad personal story), I wouldn't worry about a first year Toyota or Honda product. Not that Toyota is perfect, they got off to a rough start with the new Tundra pickup bult in Texas. But the Georgetown Kentucky plant has been building Camrys and Avalons for years. And the Venza, while a new vehicle, is using a lot of existing (and proven) technology. In my opinion, building Lexus cars has helped Toyota to learn much about eliminating squeaks and rattles typically found in early production cars. Below is an interesting link that shows vehicle production stats from the Kentucky plant. Venzas are slowly coming off the line.
 
http://www.toyotageorgetown.com/pdfs/prod/prodresults.pdf
 
MD

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