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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

1078 messages,  Last post on Nov 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Venza, Car Comparisons, Wagon, SUV


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Re: Huh? [roho1] by qs933
Oct 10, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: roho1 (Oct 10, 2009 8:41 am)

I think instead of calling the public dumb it is more of a case of they are more misinformed by the media, marketing and so called experts.
 
Your skepticism of "so called experts" should extend to forums such as this one...
 
All of this ranting and raving about traction control and AWD across various manufacturers and what allegedly is and isn't happening has been interesting, but can it be moved to a more appropriate forum? Please?
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Re: Huh? [qs933] by roho1
Oct 11, 2009 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Oct 10, 2009 5:16 pm)

....can it be moved to a more appropriate forum? Please?
 
Are you the moderator here? Anyway, I'm done. Sometimes discussions go down paths that don't please everyone.
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Re: Huh? [qs933] by volkov
Oct 11, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Oct 10, 2009 5:16 pm)

I think the topic of how Venza's AWD system works is very pertinent and important. If potential buyers think they are getting a 4WD system like the Lexus 570 has, then they are mistaken and need to re-examine. It is also then reasonable to examine the particulars of the AWD systems in the competitors to see if they are any better. I knew nothing about different AWD systems when I first joined these boards years ago. In the interval I have gained valuable knowledge about it both directly and by promoting me to seek information elsewhere. I really do think that to be the purpose of these discussions.
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Re: Huh? [volkov] by steve_ HOST
Oct 11, 2009 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: volkov (Oct 11, 2009 11:05 am)

The Toyota 4WD systems explained discussion would be a better place to continue the AWD talk, since most of us really don't care all that much about the details on these systems.
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Re: Huh? [steve_] by wwest
Oct 11, 2009 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 11, 2009 11:22 am)

"..since most of us really don't care all that much about the details on these systems..."
 
"..most of us.."
 
Really...??
 
Then most of "us" should wake up and smell the....."roses".
 
Maybe ignorance is BLISS.
 
Until the day arrives that what you didn't know, didn't wish to know, didn't think you needed to know, jumps up and bites you in the....
 
Well, you know.
 
Did you read the post immediately prior to yours or were you composing yours as the previous one was being posted..??
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Re: Huh? [wwest] by steve_ HOST
Oct 11, 2009 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 11, 2009 11:41 am)

Yeah, I read it.
 
It's the tires.
 
We're boring the people shopping for a new Venza, so let's move on please.
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Re: Huh? [roho1] by qs933
Oct 11, 2009 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: roho1 (Oct 11, 2009 5:59 am)

Are you the moderator here? Anyway, I'm done. Sometimes discussions go down paths that don't please everyone.
 
Does it take the title of "moderator" to make a suggestion to those who've strayed off topic? If so, then disregard my previous message.
 
Go ahead. Keep complaining away about the ignorant public, misleading marketers, and everything else related to AWD/4WD systems. I'll just move on elsewhere to a site where the discussion is actually about the Venza.
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Re: Huh? [steve_] by roho1
Oct 11, 2009 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 11, 2009 11:22 am)

I tried reading your link from the Sequioa forum but it is very confusing since three different systems are intertwined and it started in 2001.
 
I am very interested in a Venza and before spending $30,000 on a new vehcle I would like to know what I'm getting.
 
Sorry if I bored you.
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Re: Huh? [roho1] by steve_ HOST
Oct 11, 2009 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: roho1 (Oct 11, 2009 4:14 pm)

It is confusing. I found it helpful to start at post #1 and get an overview, and then not try to get too overloaded with details after that. For the newest models, it helps to start your own thread in there and ask how it's different or changed/improved.
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AWD Discussion by avery1
Oct 11, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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I like a little discussion of the AWD in the Venza and I think it is appropriate here. If I think the post is too detailed for my needs or time then I skip it and move to the next one. Seems like we don't need to force topics off the page if everyone can do their own editing.

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