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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

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Re: Down Hill Assist When on Cruise Control [wwest] by tictoctictoc
Oct 01, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 01, 2009 9:10 am)

Thanks dear... I am crystal clear. Got your point. Really appreciate. So there is nothing wrong with my venza
My previous Mazda cx7 was awd 2007 model
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Re: Down Hill Assist When on Cruise Control [tictoctictoc] by wwest
Oct 02, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: tictoctictoc (Oct 01, 2009 10:05 am)

2007 CX-7 F/awd...
 
Hmmm...
 
I would have thought that the CX-7's detuned/derated I4 (low CR to accommodate BOOST) would have yeilded a lot less compression braking than the Venza's V6.
 
How bad was the CX-7's FE with that detuned I4...??
 
But your CX-7 F/awd used water cooling to keep the PTO from overheating and thereby possibly more adequate use of rear drive coupling than the Venza. Otherwise that share the same F/awd design. It will be interesting to hear how the Venza F/awd system does in comparison.
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Comment by wwest
Oct 02, 2009 (9:48 am)
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Seattle.
 
It seems to me that a FWD or F/awd such as the Venza, Highlander, Sienna, and Lexus RX series would be highly inappropriate for most Canadian drivers.
 
The poor safety record of FWD in adverse wintertime roadbed conditions is bad enough but then throw in the unwarranted additional confidence, over-confidence, level of F/awd drivers and you're asking for real trouble.
 
Kuddoes to Toyota for adopting a more appropriate F/awd system, virtually an exacting copy of the Ford and Mazda F/awd system, and now the Porsche 911 R/awd system.
 
But.
 
The only time the rear driveline is to be engaged usefully is under initial acceleration from a dead stop. This is to alleviate, pre-emptively alleviate, the potential for engine torque at low speeds resulting in front wheelspin/slip. Loss of directional control leading to an accident.
 
Otherwise the engine torque will be primarily routed, 95%, to only the front wheels and TC, Traction Control will rule.
 
If front wheelslip/spin should then inadvertently result then TC braking will be INSTANTLY used to regain traction at the front as quickly as is possible while at the same time the engine gets dethrottled and the rear drive clutch fully engaged.
 
Get that..??
 
Dead in the water, right..??
 
Unless you can disable TC...
 
But then with TC disabled will the system still automatically couple in the rear drive or will the owner need to provide a manual switch with which to engage the rear drive clutch...?
 
The Mazda CX-7 uses water cooling of the PTO such that the rear drive can be engaged, sometimes fully engaged, somewhat continuously. Ford, on the other hand, chose to revise the firmware to reduce the functionality of rear drive coupling in order to alleviate driveline component overheating (once it was discovered to be happening), primarily the rear drive clutch and the PTO.
 
Given the history of Toyota and Lexus F/awd systems, all mostly non-functional, designed only for marketing purposes, I would put my money on the Venza not having enough F/aw functionality to suffice unless you live well SOUTH of the snow zone.
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Re: Comment [wwest] by steve_ HOST
Oct 02, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Oct 02, 2009 9:48 am)

What poor safety record? All the cars in the ditch at first snow fall are 4WD SUVs.
 
Got a link?
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Re: Possible Venza Transmission Defect? [allisonian] by bkby
Oct 04, 2009 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: allisonian (Jul 22, 2009 3:06 pm)

I have the same problem. To reproduce it just apply a little excess pressure on the brake peddle when starting the car or when changing gears from park to D or R. It triggers the VSC and jumps into gear when the VSC clears. I consider this a very dangerous situation and am discussing with Toyota. Had it back to the dealer abut 4 times before we figured it out. Once we did, we could reproduce on every Venza on the lot. This should be a recall item in my opinion.
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2009 Venza Test Drive by sanish
Oct 06, 2009 (2:57 pm)
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I test drove 2009 Venza (V6 w/AWD) yesterday and noticed a few issues with it, not sure if some of you had the same observation.
 
1) There was a burning smell outside the car after the test drive and the salesman mentioned that it was because the car was new and still needs to break in.
2) The cargo area with the trunk closed and the second row in position is not that great.
3) I always position my elbow either on the door or door handle, did not find a good position in this vehicle and the leather seats we not comfortable.
4) 20" wheels are way too big for this vehicle.
5) Too expensive for a Camry Wagon.
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Re: 2009 Venza Test Drive [sanish] by normvenza09
Oct 06, 2009 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: sanish (Oct 06, 2009 2:57 pm)

Sanish,
 
Saturn VUE is affordable. It doesn't have the burning smell nor 20" wheels.
 
I don't have the same observation like yours. I love every bit and driving my VENZA that I accumulated 15000 miles within 6 months.
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Re: 2009 Venza Test Drive [normvenza09] by sanish
Oct 06, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: normvenza09 (Oct 06, 2009 3:12 pm)

Mr,
 
You seem to love your Venza so much that you cannot tolerate others observation. BTW, nobody asked for your advise on which vehicle one should buy.
 
I am planning to buy 2010 RX350 in December but since I read from various posts that Venza is a good vehicle and in comparison with RX350, I thought of checking it out and post my observation. I am not trying to explain to you but to others who may get offended by my post. "I am not here to trash Venza but for good input from sensible owners".
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Bluetooth Tab on the JBL Nav settings by normvenza09
Oct 06, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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It is grayed out. I want to connect my IPHONE with OS 3.1 for Bluetooth Audio streaming. Does anyone here have this kind of set-up? I saw the youtube video from Cars.com but it doesn't show the steps.
 
My Iphone cell phone is connected to the car's bluetooth but not the audio bluetooth.
 
UPDATE: I got it to work for both bluetooth phone and audio. However, you can't connect at the same time. The trick is to change the password for Bluetooth Audio same as the Bluetooth Phone.
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Re: 2009 Venza Test Drive [sanish] by volkov
Oct 06, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: sanish (Oct 06, 2009 2:57 pm)

We are still deciding on our purchase, so can't answer as an owner. But...
 
1) There was a burning smell outside the car after the test drive and the salesman mentioned that it was because the car was new and still needs to break in.
-That is normal in a brand new vehicle. It can last for a while as various surface waxes and oils left over from the build burn off.
 
2) The cargo area with the trunk closed and the second row in position is not that great.
-Form over function. People tend not to like squared off rear ends these days. Raking the back reduces cargo but the buying public prefers the look. If you are considering the '10 RX, look at the profiles - looks like it's just the Lexus version of the Venza, so don't expect much improvement from your choice.
 
3) I always position my elbow either on the door or door handle, did not find a good position in this vehicle and the leather seats we not comfortable.
-That's always personal and varies by body size and shape. I could never find a comfortable driving position in our Sienna. My wife loved it.
 
4) 20" wheels are way too big for this vehicle.
-I agree wholeheartedly and the wheels on the Lexus look better IMHO. Many people here don't. Personal taste on that one.
 
5) Too expensive for a Camry Wagon.
- Maybe, but the premium for the AWD option is worth it to some of us. I personally agree with you if folks are considering the FWD version. OTOH some might argue the RX is expensive for a Venza with a Lexus badge, wood trim and fancier leather.

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