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New 2007 Toyota Sienna needs transmission

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#17 of 56
RE:New Transmission [pingmoon] by pingmoon
Oct 23, 2007 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: pingmoon (Oct 16, 2007 6:00 am)

I got my Sienna back last week from having the transmission replaced...so far so good. I'll post here of any future issues with the transmission.
Tonya
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Re: Toyota high resale value? [jipster] by hansienna
Jan 13, 2008 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: jipster (Aug 14, 2007 9:30 pm)

NOT true. I tried to trade off my 2006 Sienna LE with less than 3,000 miles on it. The Toyota dealership used car manager said it was worth only $19,000...which is a loss of $ 10,000 in only a few months.
 
If you are having problems with your vehicle, would you sell it privately to dump your problems on another person?
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Re: Toyota high resale value? [hansienna] by pingmoon
Jan 13, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: hansienna (Jan 13, 2008 7:29 am)

I really hope there will not be anymore transmission problems. That is the only problem so far, but that was a pretty big issue for a Toyota. If I continued to have
big issues, I might seek legal advice, if we chose not to go that route and the dealer would not give me a reasonable trade-in then I would sell privately, but I would definately tell the person the transmision was replaced. It is sad because this is the first time I have chosen to buy new. However I guess I could have bought my same van a year later 1 year used on a Toyota lot and never would have known the transmission was replaced.
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RE: Lifetime Warranty & New Transmission [chrisjenn97] by mcase2
Jan 13, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: chrisjenn97 (Oct 14, 2007 4:16 pm)

This is the most disturbing Forum on the Sienna I have ever seen. The transmission on my 2004 Sienna has a dead spot at around 1100 rpm. This was common on the 2004, but was only a minor nuisance. In fact I only notice it once or twice a year when stuck in stop and go traffic. However, failing transmisions are absolutely inexcusable on this high priced Toyota. The problem is widespread enough to have resulted in a forum and I would opine that most people do not get the warranties mentioned in these posts and are taking a huge risk in buying this car. I actually was thinking of getting another Sienna when the 7/100,000 was up on my 2004, but this not going to happen in light of the this latest failure on the part of the "the most reliable car maker on the planet." I had a failed transmision on a cheap used Dodge Caravan and Chrysler actually gave me a new transmission - not a reman. Toyota has cheek palming off remans on people who bought their high priced minivan. By the way, the word of a car dealer that only the case is recycled is meaningless. Its all about money and the guts are recylced as well. The sad truth is that you don't have remans available unless you have a high failure rate. Clearly Toyota has lots of failed transmissions to pick parts out of.
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RE: Lifetime Warranty & New Transmission [mcase2] by s4f4m
Jan 13, 2008 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: mcase2 (Jan 13, 2008 4:51 pm)

Definitely ask for a NEW one. What is REMANS? It is remanufacturing of a used transmission...replacing only the broken components. There is still wear/tear on the non-replaced components.
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RE: Lifetime Warranty & New Transmission [mcase2] by 2002odie
Jan 15, 2008 (11:53 pm)
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Replying to: mcase2 (Jan 13, 2008 4:51 pm)

I agree, this is horrible...I am getting bent out of shape because our 2002 Honda Odyssey at 89,000 miles needs a new transmission and I need to pay over $2k to get it fixed and having to fight with the dealer and corporate Honda to come down from trying to charge me the full $5k for the swap. In fact, during the time the Honda case manager was ignoring me, I started to research buying a 2008 Sienna to replace the Honda piece of junk, and here I see that brand new Sienna's with 500 miles are dropping transmissions, and some are on their second one by 3500 miles????
What's going on? Used to be Odyssey's and Sienna's were the best of the best.
Transmission failure is unacceptable. That's why we got the Odyssey back in 2001 and even had to pay $1k over the sticker at the time (and that was a good deal, since they were going for $2500 over...). We were after Honda reliability and quality. 20/20 hindsight, I should have gotten the Dodge Grand Caravan instead.
My friend has an 05 Sienna AWD Touring model and so far has not mentioned any transmission issues.
 
Now I will think about the Sienna some more (maybe that's why they are offering lifetime warranties, Toyota or their dealers know it's a problem), but definitely stay away from anymore Hondas. Maybe the Saturn Outlook or GMC Acadia are better alternatives.
 
So the transmission fails and they replace it with the same transmission that fails again...seems like Toyota doesn't have any solution except to keep putting in replacements that will eventually fail anyways??? Sounds like Toyota is using Honda transmissions now.
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RE: Lifetime Warranty & New Transmission [2002odie] by ateixeira
Jan 16, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: 2002odie (Jan 15, 2008 11:53 pm)

I have the 2008 Buying Guide from Consumer Reports right in front of me, and the specific score for transmission for every year, 2001 to 2006, on the Sienna is either "Better than Average" or "Much Better than Average".
 
Any car can break, but your odds are better with a Sienna than with any other van.
 
My 07 has been flawless.
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RE: Lifetime Warranty & New Transmission [ateixeira] by 2002odie
Jan 16, 2008 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 16, 2008 7:08 am)

Good point, Consumer Reports is a good guide, but it is still just a guide.
 
Real life experiences that threaten the safety and well-being of a car designed to transport whole families is whole other story.
 
Having a transmission go out within 500 miles is completely unacceptable.
Where's the quality control?
Where's the testing?
Is it up to the buyer to be the guinea pig?
 
There must have been a bad batch of transmissions or some kind of design flaw to cause this kind of premature failure (and then the failure of the replacement transmission? Ouch!)
 
The transmission is the second most critical component, next to the engine, without it working properly, you are stuck on the side of the road.
It's not like a bad power window switch, or a faulty radio knob.
If the transmissions fails at just the right time and just the right place, people are going to get hurt.
 
Obviously Toyota knows something is up with these vans.
Otherwise why would the dealers so generously offer a lifetime or 100k warranty?
 
During my price shopping, I was surprised to find these are going for $5k under the sticker with a $1000 rebate, which puts them at or way below invoice in most cases.
 
Sign of the economic times? Slow sales? Or are they trying to unload them?
 
I am not totally against Toyota, my sister-in-law has a Sienna with over 120k miles and no issues, and my best friend has a Sienna AWD Limited with no problems so far, that's why I was looking at them as a replacement for the Honda.
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RE: Lifetime Warranty & New Transmission [2002odie] by ateixeira
Jan 16, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: 2002odie (Jan 16, 2008 10:23 am)

Tens of thousands come off the assembly line. One bad apple doens't ruin the batch. There will always be a few exceptions, even on a reliable vehicle. No vehicle is perfect, I doubt there ever will be such a vehicle.
 
I'm sure they test samples, but not every one. Costs would skyrocket and you and I could not afford the van if they did.
 
Overall van sales are way down, they used to break a million per year but are way down from that peak. GM and Ford abandoned the segment entirely. Crossovers are all the rage, so vans have to offer more utility and value.
 
Smart folks step in and take advantage of that fact. Vans are better than ever.
 
My Sienna makes 268hp and is quicker than sports cars were not too long ago, yet I've also hit a record MPG of 34.0. Carrying 5 people and cargo. I've never done worse than 21mpg (what crossover can claim that?).
 
My van can carry 8 people or a sheet of plywood, has power doors on both sides, yet I paid only $25 grand, about $10 grand less than the average transaction price on a crossover.
 
Sure, on rare occasions, they'll break down. There's a lot of complexity and things that could go wrong. Still, the odds are good, and like I said, vans are better than ever.
 
Here's a bottom line, though: I got a price quote on a 7/100 bumper-to-bumper warranty direct from Toyota for just $880. So basically the manufacturer is betting that less than $880 of repairs will cover the entire van for that period, and even leave them room for profit!
 
They basically put their money where their mouth is. Just get the warranty if you're concerned.
 
PS Even Honda's scores for transmission reliability have improved recently (2004 and later).
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RE: Lifetime Warranty & New Transmission [ateixeira] by mcase2
Jan 17, 2008 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jan 16, 2008 7:08 am)

The problem started with the transition in manufacturing in 2007 - The stats your reading are irellevant

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