Article Comments - 2009 BMW 1-Series First Look and 135i First Drive

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First Look: 2009 BMW 1 Series Convertible - Some six months from now, the 2009 BMW 1 Series will be introduced to America, a smaller, leaner and sportier driving experience from Munich. With the formal introduction of the BMW 1 Series convertible, it's clear that BMW wants the 1 Series to be not just a car but also a whole new BMW culture. (more)

First Drive: 2009 BMW 135i - To put it plainly, the 2009 BMW 135i is more than merely good. It raises the standard of measure for small coupes to a whole new level of excellence. It is one of the purest expressions of the BMW character since the 1971 BMW 2002 tii. (more)

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#15 of 29 Re: Pricing is Key [tiff_c] by stovt001 Oct 30, 2007 (4:59 am)
Replying to: tiff_c (Oct 24, 2007 8:27 am) I also want to agree that weight and pricing are the biggest shortcomings of the 135. Most reports I've heard put the 135 starting at $35,000 and weighing slightly less than the 3 series. At that price and weight it is a good car, but not great, and in a very crowded field. If it weighs less, great, but the trend is to make cars heavier and heavier, so I'm not holding my breath for a lightweight car. If the 135 starts at the $30,000 quoted in this article, then it still holds a high place on my list, but again I doubt that due to the falling dollar. The sad thing is BMW probably made an incredible little car for not very much, but due to poor exchange rates it will probably be overpriced compared to domestic and Asian cars of comparable performance and civility. Replies to this message: tiff_c (Nov 05, 2007 10:56 pm)
#16 of 29 I hope it is $30k by waynebengston Nov 05, 2007 (7:40 pm)
If it starts at $30k, I'll be on the list as soon as they announce it. I'll be trading the Focus ST in on it. I've not been so excited about a car since the MR2 Supercharged, over 20 years ago. Replies to this message: creakid1 (Nov 08, 2007 11:00 pm)
#17 of 29 Re: Pricing is Key [stovt001] by tiff_c Nov 05, 2007 (10:56 pm)
Replying to: stovt001 (Oct 30, 2007 4:59 am) I also want to agree that weight and pricing are the biggest shortcomings of the 135. Most reports I've heard put the 135 starting at $35,000 and weighing slightly less than the 3 series. At that price and weight it is a good car, but not great, and in a very crowded field. If it weighs less, great, but the trend is to make cars heavier and heavier, so I'm not holding my breath for a lightweight car. If the 135 starts at the $30,000 quoted in this article, then it still holds a high place on my list, I'm hoping the price is also kept low, but the weight will be there for certain. modern cars have some need to be heavy. I can wait a couple more weeks until pricing is announced. But it will be nice when we can get some in depth articles on how the car really drives and performs.
#18 of 29 Re: I hope it is $30k [waynebengston] by creakid1 Nov 08, 2007 (11:00 pm)
Replying to: waynebengston (Nov 05, 2007 7:40 pm) Before you give up your (discontinued!) Focus ST... Read post # 1940, 1942, 1944 basiliskst, "Ford Focus Sedan" #1940, 21 Oct 2007 10:31 pm creakid1, "Mazdaspeed3 vs. VW V GTI vs. Civic Si" #1346, 8 Nov 2007 6:59 am
#19 of 29 1-Series pricing by rorymac Dec 02, 2007 (5:47 pm)
Pricing for the coupe is out as follows: 128i $28,600 plus freight $775 135i $34,900 plus freight $775 Intro date is April. Note that this is a 2008. I suspect the convertible will be coming out a little later in the year as a 2009.
#20 of 29 Any word on Canadian pricing? by ryandk Jan 01, 2008 (2:44 am)
Does anyone know how much the 1-series will cost in Canada? Why isn't the information released for Canada at the same time as it is for the US? Grrr... Replies to this message: ogopogo007 (Feb 10, 2008 4:33 pm) torse_jack (Feb 16, 2008 6:35 am) ogopogo007 (Feb 21, 2008 5:43 pm) and 1 more...
#21 of 29 why not by murphy4 Jan 01, 2008 (11:04 am)
bring the five door to US? Why are they limiting the range to 2 coupes? Replies to this message: creakid1 (Jan 05, 2008 2:00 pm) qbrozen (Jan 06, 2008 12:17 pm)
#22 of 29 Re: why not [murphy4] by creakid1 Jan 05, 2008 (2:00 pm)
Replying to: murphy4 (Jan 01, 2008 11:04 am) So people here will think you're driving a Saturn? http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/1series/5door/2007/introduction.html creakid1, "Article Comments - 2008 Saturn Astra First Drive" #8, 5 Nov 2007 11:16 pm (see post #8) Replies to this message: qbrozen (Jan 06, 2008 12:17 pm)
#23 of 29 Re: why not [creakid1] by qbrozen Jan 06, 2008 (12:17 pm)
Replying to: creakid1 (Jan 05, 2008 2:00 pm) well, in the other thread, you asked, "& how many people in America can tell the difference b/t them?" The answer is: me. And my opinion is the only one that matters when it comes to the car I drive.
#24 of 29 the new 1-series by nippononly Jan 28, 2008 (12:24 pm)
is 90% of the 3-series (weight- and size-wise) for 90% of the price, with 100% of the power seems to me. On the one hand, I remind myself that a base 135i would probably put the Corvette of not-too-long-ago to shame, and at a price that is $10K less. On the other hand, I can't understand why the ultimate maker of the driver's car can't figure out how to get the pork out. A nice little 2500-pound club racer is what I'd like to see from BMW. Make the A/C and stereo optional, give it a great 4-cylinder (turbo?) engine, and put it out there. I'm thinking a hardtop BMW S2000 with all that BMW knows how to do. The 1-series pales by comparison. I can get a WRX at $25K that will give the 128i a serious run for its money and give me over $5000 in change. Sheesh.