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First Drive: 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 - Officially the GT2 reaches a top speed of 215 mph, making it the fastest series production 911 ever unleashed for the road. "With speedometer error factored in, that's an indicated 214 mph," explains Alan Lewin, the new car's project boss.(more)
 
Full Test: 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 - Bottom Line: The ne plus ultra Porsche 911 lives up to the hype, but isn't really worth the extra cash compared to a GT3 that costs $84,000 less.(more)
 


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Re: Take off the blinders [bigmclargehuge] by habitat1
May 08, 2008 (3:27 am)
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 07, 2008 10:37 am)

For what it's worth, there is at least one other kindred spirit to the "wise and ancient" spiritinthesky.
 
The gentleman who is getting my dealer's first (and possibly only) GT2 next month is also trading out of a 997 Turbo. I met him when I picked my car up for service. In a nutshell, he is trading becasue he wants a lighter, faster, more nimble car and is willing to give up the "stability" of AWD and certain creature comforts to get it. Prior to the Turbo, he had a Ferrari 360 and had been considering a 430. His opinion on the GT-R was surprisingly complimentary. He thinks Nissan has done an "excellent" job of high performance engineering relative to the track performance of the car. But, as many others have suggested, at nearly 4,000 lbs and without a manual transmission, he thinks the GT-R would be more comparable to driving an SL63 or BMW M6 on public roads. A "different animal" than the GT2/GT3 or Ferrari 430.
 
P.S. Regarding making the 997 Turbo faster, he is selling his Turbo to his nephew who owns a slightly modified 996 Turbo with 550 hp/ 550 ft.lbs at the wheels and that has been clocked at 11.1 seconds in the 1/4 mile. He will be shooting for "mid 10's" with the 997. But, as both of us agreed, stop light drag racing isn't our top priority.
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Re: Take off the blinders [habitat1] by bigmclargehuge
May 08, 2008 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 08, 2008 3:27 am)

I don't particularly disagree with anything in your last post. That was not a defense of the Nissan, nor trying to convert anyone. But using that as an example, there isn't anything inherently wrong with AWDs. If you tweak them correctly, that is.
 
But 07997 has a good idea, and it seems you have seen some examples with a friend's modified 996 Turbo. It goes far beyond stoplight drag racing though. Its expensive, yet easy to improve the Turbo as a track car.
 
The Turbo is several hundred pounds heavier, dozens of HP weaker than the GT2, with a softer suspension. It does not use as many lightweight materials. And the aerodynamics are improved on the GT2.
 
And the first thing that gets blamed by some 'knowledgeable' people is the AWD system. Well, we can either use the evidence available to agree that it is not the only liability, or even the primary liability, or continue driving with the blinders on.
 
If I tricked you into driving a GT2 with 200lbs of lead bricks in the front area, you'd probably say it didn't have the feel you were hoping for. That's the kind of unfair comparison the Turbo, with its fully functional backseat without rollcage, gets put under.
 
Feel might be the main factor that is driving your friend to the GT2. And he recognizes and compliments other cars where credit is due. But for those that don't like the feel of the Turbo, why make other excuses? You like what you like, and if that happens to be the GT2 or a Ferrari, so be it.
 
The GT2 motto is 'Respect Required.' Don't worry, if I were sharing the track with one, regardless of what I was driving, I'd be respecting it.
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Full Test available! by KarenS HOST
Jul 22, 2008 (8:39 am)
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Full Test: 2008 Porsche 911 GT2

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