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First Drive: 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 - Officially the GT2 reaches a top speed of 215 mph, making it the fastest series production 911 ever unleashed for the road. "With speedometer error factored in, that's an indicated 214 mph," explains Alan Lewin, the new car's project boss.(more)
Full Test: 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 - Bottom Line: The ne plus ultra Porsche 911 lives up to the hype, but isn't really worth the extra cash compared to a GT3 that costs $84,000 less.(more)
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Check out our 2008 GT2 first drive and tell us what you think. First Drive: 2008 Porsche 911 GT2
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Replying to: KarenS (Oct 03, 2007 8:58 am) At an indicated 186 mph — almost 3.5 miles per minute. 180 mph is exactly 3.0 miles per minute; 186 is exactly 3.1 miles per minute. 3.5 miles per minute would be 210 mph. But beyond that trivial complaint, I would very much like to have the car, at least for a long weekend. My daughters would not want to give up the enjoyment the convertible back seat in our 911S Cab, but I would love to feel what an extra 175 hp and 206 ft. lbs of torque felt like. Although perhpas that long weekend should be in Germany, where at least one be semi-legal in enjoying that absurd performance. |
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Replying to: KarenS (Oct 03, 2007 8:58 am) 196 MPH +/- 3 MPH is faster than 98% of the people in this world will ever drive... 215 MPH doesnt look all that much different. If one were going to take up racing, I think I would start by stripping whatever Porsche I decided to use and replace everything I can with carbon fiber and seriously redesign the rear suspension. (The whole uneven tire wear thing really bugs me)... IMHO 
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Replying to: 07997turbo (Apr 23, 2008 7:52 am) Try 195k vs.130k for a far more nimble and lightweight sports car. The extra 50 hp is a bonus, but if the GT2 hadn't come out when it did, I'd be trading in my 997 Turbo for a GT3 instead. Suggesting that the Turbo is more "stable" with AWD is highly debatable. The RWD GT3 with a 70 hp and nearly 200 ft.lb. disadvantage posts comparable or better track times than the AWD Turbo. The GT2 is in a different league altogether. The C2 and C2S are both quicker, nimbler and post better track times than their C4 and C4S brethren. The steering on the "2"'s is IMO, more direct and responsive. If I wanted the ultimate in foul weather "stability", I'd get a Cayenne. But I, for one, am not pleased with what AWD does to the subjective feel of a sports car. And, at least in the case of the 911, there is objective evidence that it is a disadvantage to performance, not an advantage. Don't get me wrong, for anyone outside this forum, I'd still claim that my 997 Turbo is a world class sports car. But now having driven the entire range of the 997 line-up, I'll take mine with RWD and a little less tonnage, thank you very much. |
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Apr 25, 2008 3:13 am) I agree. that is why I would replace everything I could with carbon fiber panels as I indicated in my first post.
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Replying to: 07997turbo (Apr 30, 2008 4:39 pm) Sort of like ordering a diet coke to go along with your Double Whopper and fries? I don't know how much weight can be saved by the use of carbon fiber. But, speaking for myself, I'd rather have the lighter, more drivetrain efficient RWD to start with, than try to lighten up the heavier, less drivetrain efficient AWD. I say that from having driven the C2S and C4S back to back extensively when I was thinking of trading my 997 2005 C2S for a 2006 model 2 years ago. The Turbo has power and torque to spare, so perhaps the added weight and 5%+/- additional drive train power loss of the AWD system is not as noticable of a handicap. But in the base or S models, the AWD system definitely has some unwanted side effects to achieving the added stability, IMO.
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Replying to: habitat1 (May 02, 2008 4:36 am) You'd be surprised how much weight carbon fiber can save. Every panel he swaps will weigh half as much. The roof, trunklid and hood alone will save ~100lbs. AWD is not a handicap if used correctly. The 5% drivetrain loss argument certainly wouldn't change my mind because the added traction often yields higher accel, even with the same power rating. So the power connecting to the road doesn't leave you out anything. Porsche just didn't finish the job that they started out of the factory. All the aftermarket tuner companies of 911Ts' come with aero and suspension changes, along with weight. And they work. AWE If this is 07997's goal, he could easily have something equal to the GT2. Its not really in a different league. Just different. It might cost him his right arm, but hey, if its worth it to him 
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Replying to: spiritinthesky (Apr 25, 2008 3:13 am) The entire range now thats some experience Saw my first white brand new GT2 today honestly looking very good in fact I even saw a bentley gtc murcielago a merc SLR but for some reason the GT2 was looking very cool. After seeing the GT2 I can understand now why many here still choose porsche rather the going to nissan.
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Replying to: bmlexus (May 04, 2008 4:57 pm)  Must have been a good day. Those are some nice looking machines. FYI, not everyone who appreciates cars of different makes and models is 'going Nissan.' I certainly don't have a problem with Porsche as a company. If they could just keep the rear end of the Turbo from stepping out it would be a real monster. Its like 99% of a perfect car. IMHO.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 05, 2008 6:31 am) For someone who talks big, large and huge I have to ask, have you ever driven any of the cars you talk about on a track? Not the Nurburgring, mind you, just any track? Or an empty stretch of open road, for that matter? I suspect not. Because if you had, you would know that it's damn near impossible to get the rear end of a 997 Turbo to "step out". That nasty characteristic dates back 20+ years and has been effectively rendered a non-issue in the 997 unless the car is pushed to very extreme limits. Something I haven't done at my local track or at Nurburgring last fall. Not even in the RWD GT3. From the sounds of it, you are a hell of a reader. Hopefully someday you can switch to driving - and be able to offer your own perspective without having to rely on what somebody else has written.
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