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#388 of 537 Re: Concerned about A/C in 2009 Fit [cdcooker]
Oct 01, 2009 (4:44 pm)
The engine in the Honda Fit is too small to support the load the AC compressor puts on it from a stop. That is why Honda designed the AC compressor to shut off when a load is put on the engine from a stop (being more than 20% throttle) and designed the compressor to kick back on either when a certain RPM is reached or 20% throttle is reduced. This great idea Honda designed which is a flaw blows hot air on the occupants of the vehicle every time the compressor is shut offs. Why didn't Honda just put a large enough engine into the Honda Fit which is large enough to support any and all loads put on it? They have a unacceptable design in their Honda Fit which so far they are unwilling to fix or come up with any remedy for that matter. It's called a "CRAMDOWN". This is so pathetic from a company like Honda. It's really nice when you have your elderly parents in the car on a hot summer day with the AC on and the car is blowing hot air on them.
#389 of 537 Re: Concerned about A/C in 2009 Fit [rudy33]
Oct 02, 2009 (7:58 am)
Have you tinted your windows? I did that last spring and made a huge difference this summer. I have to admit that the AC on my Fit isn't as powerful as in my other and previous cars, but the tinting really helped. The '07 & 08 models weren't designed for the USA's California desert heat. I wonder if the 09's have the same AC cut-off feature?
I'm actually surprised anyone would actually buy a car with an AC that didn't satisfy them. If I lived in really hot places that would be the first thing I tried out in a test drive. It would be pretty obvious right from the start that the compressor shuts off under high RPMs. At least with the good resale value you can get a pretty good price for selling your Fit if it's really that bad.
#390 of 537 Re: Concerned about A/C in 2009 Fit [bobw3]
Oct 06, 2009 (1:07 pm)
I don't think I should have to tint my windows to fix a AC flaw Honda is too cheap to fix, hence the cramdown. Maybe you use you AC in Fall throughout the winter but I don't hence it was not "pretty obvious". When a car manufacturer deviates so far from what is the "accepted norm" of what AC is and what it does they should be required to give the public a disclosure claiming the drastic change they took compared to every other vehicle in the United States.
#391 of 537 Re: Concerned about A/C in 2009 Fit [mickllogon]
Oct 12, 2009 (6:03 am)
At least the Fit's resale value is pretty high (I guess because there are thousands of folks who don't feel that that the AC is that poor), so maybe the best thing would have been to cut your losses, sell it and buy another small car (in the summer!) Of course now it's fall. For me, the $200 spent on tinting would be better than being uncomfortable...but that's only me. I think the only one who thinks the Fit's AC operation is a "drastic change" is you. I've never read any professional review, even Consumer Reports, who bring up this "drastic" AC issue. Again, I agreee that the Fit's AC isn't the most powerful one out there, but I think that's only part of the problem for the extra "heat" in your car
#392 of 537 Re: Concerned about A/C in 2009 Fit [bobw3]
Oct 12, 2009 (10:43 am)
I live in central Georgia--not quite south Texas but a place with six months of summer and six minutes of winter--and my Fit (bought August 1, in 98F weather) cools pretty well, certainly better than the '99 Civic it replaced, despite the fact that the Fit has a lot more glass area. It's not up to the A/C of the '94 Sonoma my dad used to have, but it's adequate.
I've found that letting the windows down for 30 seconds gives the A/C all the headstart it needs to cool the car off, on even the hottest (100-105F) days. Have you checked outlet temps with an A/C thermometer? With the recirc on, you should be able to get a deltaT (outside temp minus outlet temp) of at least 40 degrees--if it's not, then the system is not "functioning as designed."
One thing that's been noted ad nauseam on fitfreak.net is that the condenser on these cars hangs unprotected behind the open lower section of the bumper, where it can easily be damaged by road debris. A brief visual inspection should make such damage obvious, though.
#393 of 537 Maximizing the FIT AC Performace
Oct 16, 2009 (10:47 pm)
FIT AC Solution
I have a 2007 Honda FIT 75K miles and live and work in Riverside County, Ca (Inland Empire). It really gets hot here in the summer but no humidity. At about 70K miles it started blowing hot air when I would come to a stop. Hereís how I fixed this. First, we all know Hondas have weak ACís compared to domestic vehicles. I have owned four, all have had weak ACs. BUT, here's an important way to improve the FIT and probably all other carís AC performance. The AC condenser on the FIT is unprotected and sets very low to the ground. It picks up all the rocks and junk off the roads, especially freeways. This severely clogs/blocks the condenser channels and bends the fins of the condenser. Then, air is restricted and does not remove the heat off the condenser. So, if you have any miles at all on your FIT check your condenser. You'll notice the damage already. Your AC performance is being adversally affected by this. Spend several hours straightening out the fins as best you can and cleaning out all the small rocks, etc from the condenser channels using a thin firm wire or wiper blade steel strip. Then, spray water thru the condenser to remove all particles.
Next measure the condenser, cut a piece of aluminum window screen to the measurements and paint it black. Do not use the fiberglass type screen. The aluminum type is firmer and will stop stones B4 they get to the condenser. Make sure you fasten the screen down, especially the bottom.
Next, put a high grade heat reflecting limo tint on the rear window and rear door glasses. I have had a lighter tint on my front door windows for 2 years. So far the cops have not bothered me. Finally, put the same high grade limo tint from the rear on to the TOP of your windshield on the inside. Some state laws allow 12" but check your state laws for legality. In all cases, I think a certain amount is legal.
Always place a fold out type sun blocker up aginst the insie of the windshield when parked.
When 1st starting out, crack the rear windows to exhaust the hot air rapidally.
I did all these things to my FIT and it really helped improve the AC efficiency. It is now very confortable, even when the temp iis >100 degrees. This should for you as well. Good luck.
#394 of 537 2009 Honda Fit A/C Problems..
Aug 11, 2010 (8:56 am)
My Fit is located in the Atlanta Ga. area..The 1st trip to Fla. the a/c froze up after 2 hours of driving on the interstate..It was hot outside..mid to upper 90's..Vent stays on re-circulate..Coldest Setting..This Is Unacceptable!!
Took it to the dealer..well sir: everything checks out ok..nothing we can do untill it breaks or developes a problem that we can find!! BULL/S...!!
A/C is fine around town..short trips..BUT..Go on a trip & see what happens..the blower motor slows down to NOTHING..can barely feel it!..I Turned The A/C off at the dash to let it re-cycle for 30 seconds..little to NO good!
The Car Is TINTED to the Maximum Tint..Color is tidewater blue..
It Would seem to me as an outsider looking in..All Honda has to do is.. change the value codes in the computer of the vehicle!!
My sister in-law in jax.fla has the2009 fit sport with NO a/c problems..So the moral of the story? BUYER BEWARE!! If The dealer wont let you borrow or test drive the car for a minimum 2 hours....DON't BUY IT!!!!!
#395 of 537 UPDATE 2009 Honda Fit A/C Problems
Aug 17, 2010 (7:30 am)
Folks..Here Is The FIX For Your A/C Problems...Call American Honda..File Your Complaint!! Deceide Which Dealer In Your Area Has The BEST Service Department..
American Honda Will Bend Over Backwards To Accomodate You! I'm On Vacation In Fla. And I STUMBLED Upon Autoway Honda In Clearwater Fla. Have Your Dealer Call Chuck At 1-888-532-9181..His Tech Found The Problem Straight Away..My 09 Fit Had A Bad A/C Expansion Block..In Other Words The A/C Worked Fine Around Town On Short Trips..BUT..As Soon As You Hit The Hwy On A Trip..The A/C Would FREEZE Up & All But Quit About 1 1/2-2 Hours Into The Trip!!
So, All This Other BULL Is Just That..So Much B/S!! Make Sure That You Deal With The Most EXPERIENCED Service Dept You Can Find, Leave The Car There Untill They Find The Problem!
#396 of 537 Re: UPDATE 2009 Honda Fit A/C Problems [maxhray]
Aug 24, 2010 (2:01 pm)
Drove the car home to Atlanta via Jax Fla..422 Miles..NO problems..A/C working just like its suppose to. It will FREEZE you out of there!! Congrats to Autoway Honda
The problem you might encounter with A/C expansion block! Part BACK-ORDERED!!
Had to wait 3 days for part to come in..Normally a 2 hour repair job..
I raised much HELL With American Honda for not keeping the necessary parts at the Dealers!
Good luck with your repair job!
#397 of 537 Re: Recirculate does not increase cooling. [nun1983]
Oct 12, 2010 (7:55 pm)
I had the same problem and had my Honda fit 2010 for less than three months and it was blowing warm air when I turned the a/c on. Took it to the dealership where I bought it from in Katy Texas and they also told me a small rock must have hit the car. Mind you I have been driving on paved roads and did not encounter any rocks. Ridiculous. I traded it in right away and lost $4500 . Even considered suing the dealership. Will never buy a Honda again.