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#379 of 537 Re: Weak A/C? [mickllogon]
Sep 30, 2009 (12:25 pm)
If you read my post you know what I mean by "blowing hot air". The 2009 Honda Fit Sport blows hot air on you when the AC in on. Recirculation helps only if the car has cooled off it is not (as noticeable) but still annoying for a new car and unacceptable. Using your scenario, presuming the car has cooled to 45 degrees which is the average range, it does not continue to cool from a stop, it blows recirculated air on you whatever that temperature is. If the car has not cooled or recirculation is not on and the outside temperature is 105 degrees when the AC is on and you accelerate from a stop the car blows the outside ambient air temperature on the occupants. I expect a car's AC to cool constantly like every other car before the Honda Fit. If Honda wants to call this defect some earth shattering news they should disclose it to all buyers of the Fit because it deviates so far from the norm of what AC is as well as consumer expectations.
#380 of 537 Re: Weak A/C? [mickllogon]
Sep 30, 2009 (4:16 pm)
The question that you asked included a lengthy statement to the effect that Honda didn't have a fix, and asked if anyone knew of a fix. You didn't specify that you wanted a Honda-approved fix--since you'd already established that one did not exist.
I provided a link to a thread on another forum--and the first post in that thread specifically states that the fix is not a factory or dealer fix, and that the originator (not me) disclaims any damage that you might do to your system by implementing it. Maybe you didn't read that part?
In addition to the originator's disclaimer, I also pointed out that it was not a factory fix--and that you should "exhaust all warranty-related options first."
Forgive me for trying to help. You may rest assured it will not happen again.
#381 of 537 Re: Weak A/C? [stephen987]
Sep 30, 2009 (7:32 pm)
Your absolutely right. You never mentioned "other websites" other than the one the fix was located on. You seem to want to play sematics, etc. more so than fix the problem. If you can not understand that the car is under warranty and attempting to fix it myself or have anyone else other than an authorized dealer work on the vehicle will void the warranty. That seems fairly straight forward. Actually, let me clarify that for you, the car is one year into it's warranty. It is not like it will be off warranty in a week in which case I would not have a problem trying your fix if it made sense to me. Trying an "unauthorized fix" one year into the warranty and risk voiding the entire warranty makes no sense to me whatsoever.
#382 of 537 Re: Weak A/C? [mickllogon]
Sep 30, 2009 (8:28 pm)
. . . which is precisely why I said that you should exhaust all warranty-related possibilities before attempting this obviously underground fix.
Once again: I offered a fix that I had seen on another website (www.fitfreak.net). You claimed not to be able to find it. I then sent you a direct link to the discussion on that website, on the assumption that since you had asked for a fix and hadn't gotten one from Honda, you might find the information useful. Of course you were certainly free to disregard it if you did not think it was appropriate for your situation--which both I and the originator of that fix made clear.
I gather that you have chosen not to perform this modification because it would void your warranty. That's fine. But don't come back here and bitch at me because the help I offered wasn't what you had in mind.
Over and out. Happy trolling.
#383 of 537 Re: Weak A/C? [mickllogon]
Oct 01, 2009 (9:04 am)
My Fit does the same thing...the AC compressor cuts off to add power during hard acceleration. I don't really find that a problem and I think it's designed that way to give extra power when needed...ie when you press down hard on the gas. When I had older cars with small engine and I was going up a hill or otherwise needed more power I just manually turn off the AC to give the extra power, so I find it convenient that the Fit does it for me.
#384 of 537 Re: Weak A/C? [bobw3]
Oct 01, 2009 (9:48 am)
I find it to be a huge problem living in the Central Valley where temperatures can remain above 100 degrees for weeks averaging plus 95 daily. It is totally unacceptable to have the AC shut off at any point in time. Honda should have disclosed their "cutting edge technology" to new potential buyers of the car instead of having consumers find out after they bought the car and further find out that Honda can not and will not fix it. It is one thing to disclose new technology to the consumer before the purchase is made and quite another thing not to disclose new technology to the customer before the purchase and not fix their design flaw after the fact. I find it very curious that if this is such great technology, why did Honda not put it in any of their other models? It's a design flaw simply because they went too far in their attempt to produce a greener vehicle.
#385 of 537 Re: Weak A/C? [rudy33]
Oct 01, 2009 (10:13 am)
It would be great if they could have an "eco" mode that cycles and a "max" mode that doesn't. That way, the driver could decide.
Honda sometimes tries to outsmart drivers. For example, the compressor automatically runs when you set the airflow to "defog." Even when you press the A/C button to turn it off, the car overrides your intention and keeps the compressor on.
I prefer to have more choices, rather than have the car decide for me.
#386 of 537 Re: Weak A/C? [stephen987]
Oct 01, 2009 (10:50 am)
I wish Honda would admit their design flaw and fix it and stop playing semantics. They have most of their service people hiding behind the phrase "it is performing as designed". Everyone agrees with that, but it is a design flaw. Take it one step further, Honda sells a model with no engine, the unsuspecting customer complains because the car does not have an engine. The dealership tells him the car is "performing as designed". I assumed the AC in the Honda Fit would perform like every other vehicle. When you press the AC button it blows cold air on you (constantly). That is what I have come to expect of any car with AC. That is what I expect when I buy any future car with AC. Honda is attempting to cover their design flaw by passing off this defect or very poor design idea as new technology. When any new car blows hot air on the occupants when the AC is on, that is not new technology but rather plain and simple poor technology and a design flaw. It would be nice to have Honda step up to the plate and fix their poor design/ design flaw.
#387 of 537 Re: Concerned about A/C in 2009 Fit [stuartsinger]
Oct 01, 2009 (12:17 pm)
I test drove 3 Honda Fits at three different Honda dealers in August in Austin, TX. Triple digits temperature almost every day in this summer. Unfortunately, I have to tell you that the A/C of Fit is indeed very week. Me and my wife, plus the salesman sitting inside. We turned the fan knob to max, me and my wife still didn't feel cold after 5 minutes of driving, and stay the same the whole ride. Not to mention the fan noise at max position. We didn't believe ourselves, so we went to two other Honda dealers on two different dates to test drive Fit again. Our conclusion is that Fit is not fit for Texas summer.
#388 of 537 Re: Concerned about A/C in 2009 Fit [cdcooker]
Oct 01, 2009 (4:44 pm)
The engine in the Honda Fit is too small to support the load the AC compressor puts on it from a stop. That is why Honda designed the AC compressor to shut off when a load is put on the engine from a stop (being more than 20% throttle) and designed the compressor to kick back on either when a certain RPM is reached or 20% throttle is reduced. This great idea Honda designed which is a flaw blows hot air on the occupants of the vehicle every time the compressor is shut offs. Why didn't Honda just put a large enough engine into the Honda Fit which is large enough to support any and all loads put on it? They have a unacceptable design in their Honda Fit which so far they are unwilling to fix or come up with any remedy for that matter. It's called a "CRAMDOWN". This is so pathetic from a company like Honda. It's really nice when you have your elderly parents in the car on a hot summer day with the AC on and the car is blowing hot air on them.