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#41 of 60 Re: One year on [andre1969]
Nov 20, 2008 (8:16 am)
Toyota is talking about releasing a 1.3L Yaris with about 10% less hp, 15% less torque. They are estimating it will make 15% better fuel economy. I would say that is good evidence that more power is in a fairly linear relationship with less fuel economy......
#42 of 60 Re: One year on [pf_flyer]
Nov 22, 2008 (7:49 am)
Another former Sentra owner! I had an 87 before I drowned it. It was a slug but dependable as all get out, easy to work on and would get over 40 mpg on a trip.
There's no way they shouldn't be able to produce a car now that gets that kind of mileage. Yes, the cars have gotten bigger and heavier but the technology has advanced.
Do I like a car with a lot of zip? Sure, but not all of them have to have that.
#43 of 60 Re: One year on [fezo]
by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST
Nov 22, 2008 (8:18 am)
Never considered my Sentras to be sports cars, but they weren't slugs either. The base Focus I had as a rental in LA back in 2001, now THAT was a slug
I agree 100%. What has happened to our perception of what "good mileage" is? Heck, my 1966 Chrylser Newport with the 383 V8 was getting 19mpg when it had 220,000 miles on it.
#44 of 60 Re: One year on [pf_flyer]
Nov 22, 2008 (8:25 am)
Did the 87 Sentra offer more than one engine? I ask because this one was slow. It had replaced an 80 Accord which, while not a sports car by any means, was pretty zippy.
Of course the real slug of my various cars was that 69 Volvo 142. If it wrere any slower it would have been going backwards.
#45 of 60 Re: One year on [fezo]
by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST
Nov 22, 2008 (8:46 am)
All of our vehicles since 1979 have been 5 speeds so that kind of disguises slug-ness a bit
1.6 liter was the only size engine available for the 87
That body style was similar to my 81.
Once we got to 1991 there were 3 engine choices, 1.4, 1.6, and 2.0 liter. I had the 1.6 so that explains why I didn't notice much difference. I liked the B13 body style the best of all my Sentras. This photo was just after someone stopped short for a deer in front of my wife:)
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#46 of 60 Re: One year on (pf_flyer)
Nov 22, 2008 (10:28 am)
A 1.4? Are you sure the 1.6 wasn't the smallest engine for the Sentra from the mid-'80s on, for the U.S. market?
#47 of 60 Re: One year on (pf_flyer) [hpmctorque]
Nov 22, 2008 (10:53 am)
Mine was a five speed as well. Looked just like your picture but in alight metallic blue of some sort.
#48 of 60 Re: One year on [pf_flyer]
Nov 23, 2008 (5:52 am)
Heck, my 1966 Chrylser Newport with the 383 V8 was getting 19mpg when it had 220,000 miles on it.
I briefly had a 1967 Chrysler Newport hardtop coupe with a 383-2bbl, but didn't have it long enough to track the mileage. 19 mpg sounds really good for something that size, though. My '67 Catalina convertible, with its 400-4bbl, could get about 17-18 mpg if I kept my foot out of it.
Maybe I should've held onto that Chrysler? I got rid of it back in 1999, around the same time that I got my Intrepid.
#49 of 60 Pain Point? $4 / gallon
Dec 10, 2008 (12:09 pm)
That is only my opinion, of course. After Katrina, when prices rose to over $3 / gallon, it didn't seem like too many folks changed their driving habits. However, this past summer, when the price broke the $4 / gallon barrier in most of the country, I think there was a general panic about fuel mileage.
Folks couldn't dump their SUV's fast enough, and cars like the Civic, which you could get for around invoice in the spring, suddenly became as scarce as hen's teeth (with an increased transaction price to match). Public transportation and carpooling became more popular.
I was lucky in that I started a new job with my company that allowed me to work from home .. now, instead of commuting 21 miles each way to work every day, I go into the office once every 2 weeks.
Now that prices are hovering around $1.75 / gallon (national average - I paid $146.9 for gas earlier today), will folks go back to their SUV's and pickup trucks? Perhaps, but in much smaller numbers, I should think. I don't think you'll see folks buying a large SUV or full-sized truck unless there is a real need for it (large family, need to tow).
A co-worker of my wife used to drive an '01 (or so) Chevy Tahoe. Over the summer, she and her husband bought a used Toyota Corolla (mid 90's, I think) and put in a reconditioned engine. I think they spent around $1000 to get it up and running. She drove it back and forth to work most of the fall. When I went to my wife's work last week, I noticed that she was back driving the Tahoe. Now, this could be due to the poor weather we've been having in Colorado lately, but it could also be that she is just more comfortable driving the Tahoe.
andre, I second your comments about the cramped interior of the Corolla. Some friends of ours have an '06, and I drove it once. I'm only 5'11", and I found myself uncomfortable behind the wheel. More so than I did in our '03 Focus or my daughter's '06 ION - both of those cars were reasonably comfortable for me to drive.
pf, I owned a '91 Sentra - I think they only came with the 1.6L and 110HP, unless you got the SE-R, which came with the "hot" 2L and 140HP. I don't specifically remember the kind of mileage I used to get with it, but it was the car that took me from CA to CO when I moved there in '93.
#50 of 60 Re: Pain Point? $4 / gallon [michaell]
Dec 10, 2008 (12:39 pm)
Now I started reducing trips and slowing down after Katrina but I agree that the population as a whole didn't get it until $4 gas. That's a memory I hope stays with us.