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Replying to: pf_flyer (Oct 02, 2007 5:01 am) I think it's been tipped as you say but those that have such vehicles are keeping them for the times that they are needed but picking up additional vehicles for everyday use. Sales of new BOF SUVs are down everywhere from 10-30%. A lot of these vehicles may disappear as the time comes to renew them. |
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If you take a look at the car dealers, at least around here, most of the cars, new and used, displayed prominently for easy viewing from the road are larger vehicles. Just a casual observation 
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Oct 03, 2007 2:44 pm)
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Oct 02, 2007 5:01 am) Europeans routinely pay more for gas than Americans do. They still sell a fair number of big cars, and SUV sales are rising there. They also sell alot of small cars too, so maybe the tipping point is $5-6.00/gal which has been the traditional European price point.
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 03, 2007 3:41 pm) |
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Remember that from $1 to $2 looked like a 100% increase(igoring inflation) $2 to $3 is only a 50% jump $3 to $4 is only 33% So while each level is $1, the underlying increase in pressure can actually seem to be less to most folks.
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Oct 05, 2007 10:41 am) |
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The price of gas may not be so much the problem but if we start to see lines like we saw in the 70's and 80's. I don't know if it could happen today, but if you were a driver back then , you remember the pain on sitting in line on you odd or even number day. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 03, 2007 2:59 pm) If I was driving as much as you I would probably have a Jetta TDI. For me $5 per gallon gas and 15 MPG is not even a factor in my budget. My water bill is higher than my gas bill each month. We will run out of water before we run out of fossil fuel. I am going to ride in comfort. I don't plan on leaving a fortune to my children. If they get a $1000 when I die it will be more than I ever inherited. |
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Replying to: blufz1 (Oct 05, 2007 4:55 pm) I end up parking the 4x4 and using a 3.8 L car that needs 3.1 gallons. The car was purchased for $1k more than a year's gas use of the truck. That was about $15000 less than the cost of a new Mazda3 would have been with tax and interest. I got 90% of the efficiency difference without the huge outlay. With a car that uses 3.1 gallons instead of one that uses 2.8 gallons a day to go to work, what price change in gas will drive me to PAIN? The savings that 40 mpg offers comes with other discomforts. The savings from an i4 over an efficient V6 is barely more than a dollar a day at $2.75 a gallon gas. With sales tax of $1100 for any new car, that's almost 1100 days just to recoup the sales tax. I know keeping a 4x4 around for weekend errands is costly but I kissed that money bye when I bought it. What I could recoup by selling or trading it is barely over half of what I bought it for. The majority of that loss has already happened. The pain was answered with the jump from 16 mpg to 29 or 30. That was from V8 to V6. The pain from 30 to 40 is only a 33% reduction in fuel cost. After the 100% from '03 to '07, getting back 33% of that with the convenience of a 40 mpg car doesn't seem so improtant. There in no room in the back seat of any 35 or 40 mpg car. |
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