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#203 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [lisam5]
Jul 11, 2012 (12:34 pm)
Well if a 2012 Escape is still having stain problems what can we expect from the 2013? Ford does NOT care. I can swear that my 2011 has NEVER had anything spilled on the seats EVER and I have cleaned 3 mysterious spots that suddenly appeared. Two times the spots were in different areas and the car wasn't even driven. Believe me please that 1. The interior of my car is always clean and there is no eating, kids, or pets in my car 2. It has been stated by others that the problem is due to the recycling material Ford uses. 3. Leather is better but some of us can't afford it. 4.Ford has already stated they are going to use recycled material in the 2013. Wow, lots of bucks (see new prices) for the new Escape eh?. Ford just turns a deaf ear when we complain. I'll not spend my money on poor workmanship.
#204 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [babbs3]
Jul 11, 2012 (4:34 pm)
you don't want to hear about a 2008 & 2009 that have a total of 106,087miles- and the seats look like brand new
you don't want to see pictures
you just want to say ford is crap
I don't think you have a clue
have you ever done a search on how much stuff is recycled that is in everday items we all use
because you feel ford cloth seats are poor workmanship, you whine
quit already- you have no basis to state Ford cloth seats are junk
I can show you ford interiors are as good as the next
I have the bottom of the rear seats out, and the headrests out- they are in the cargo trailer- you take them and compare to a brand new Chevy, Chrysler, Dodge-
#205 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [shadescapes]
by steve_ HOST
Jul 11, 2012 (7:38 pm)
You sound like you work for a dealer.
My (Ford built) minivan is 13 years old, 176k miles and has cloth seats. We paddle whitewater and lots of wet gear has been tossed on the seats over the years (not to mention our own wet seats). We have some dirt on them, but our seats don't have water stains or circular "sweat" stains.
I've seen a few posts complaining about spots with Jeeps, Saturns, Pontiacs, Kias, and Volvos but most seem to be from Escape owners. You'd think after 4 years of complaints Ford would tweak the textile a bit.
My other car has black leather seats. Had to drive it today, and it was 90 out. Ugh. They aren't too comfy in the cold here in the UP of MI either. Never again.
#206 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [steve_]
Jul 12, 2012 (6:42 am)
I had a 2000 Taurus SW with cloth seats- traded it for this Escape after 168,000 miles
while I don't think either of my Escapes have as good of cloth material as to staining, it isn't hard to clean
I picked up a spray bottle of Scotch Gaurd
I took one of the bottoms of my seat that hasn't been in the vehicle for 3 years and set a cold water bottle on it-
the sweat/moisture left a mark
when dry I used regular dish soap like I mix for washing dishes
removed it completely
today I'm going to spray the Scotch Gaurd on
see if it still leaves a water bottle sweat mark
apoligize for coming across a little hard
I do quite a bit of off roading, hunting, etc- my interior looks quite nice
I do treat the plastic with Armor All
I have a heavy blanket/type that covers the rear area- seats are always down-
have a large dog box that just fits in
have something interesting to ask Escape owners
ever removed that rear carpet piece, wondered about that moulded black plastic piece, wondered about what you could store in there- I have it loaded with emergency stuff
#207 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [shadescapes]
Jul 12, 2012 (12:00 pm)
I did not use the words JUNK and CRAP. The fact that your seats are perfect is great, but when stains suddenly appeared I went to the Forum and found quite a few folks with seat problems. It would be hard to find anyone that doesn't know we recycle alot of things, but some of us just say that Ford isn't checking the composition of the recycled product(i.e. maybe a oil product). As far as whining goes, well, telling people about problems on a car seems like thats one of the reasons we have Forums. When a car has a problem, I don't care if it's a Ford or GM, Chrysler, or Honda. I think for the money we spend on cars we must share all info we can. Of course ALL Fords are not problematic but if it affects some than those are the ones speaking.
#208 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [babbs3]
Jul 12, 2012 (2:04 pm)
good response there babbs
please allow me to explain-
these seat materials are indeed in question-
but they can be easilly cleaned
I just don't feel a seat material that doesn't tear, wears real good, is bad-
granted- they show stains- most any cloth seat does
I sure don't think dealers should be blamed because they won't put in new seats or new seat covers- might be different if Ford Manufacturing would pay the labor and parts for everyone who wanted different seats or seat covers than what they bought the vehicle with (meaning- under warranty would FMC fully reimburse the dealer for the mechanic's labor time to do the work and the material and parts)
I feel anyone who is totally upset should talk with the dealer they purchased from and see if that dealer can do the work and be paid- not free repair for them- but FMC to pay- or
If that dealer should listen to you- would you and them split the total cost- would seem reasonable- don't you think
and if someone doesn't want to buy Ford because of this- nothing wrong with that-jmo
#209 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [shadescapes]
Jul 14, 2012 (4:02 pm)
Just so we are clear, I thought we were talking about stains that appear on their own? If anyone spills, drops, or allows things to fall on a seat than It should be up to that person to clean it themselves. I agree that seats should be taken care of and last a long time. Of course, cleaning is easy but why should a seat that has had NOTHING on it to cause a stain be not covered under warranty? Since I have had my 2011 Escape I do not place anything on the seats without a towel. The truth is some of these seats have something in its composition that causes these mysterious spots. If I caused them than I SHOULD pay to have them cleaned, not Ford. I have had car seats (fabric) and always kept them clean. Of all the cars I've owned, only one car (very old) got a split seam but that was just carelessness on my part. We are talking about STAINS showing up for no reason.
#210 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [babbs3]
Jul 15, 2012 (5:08 am)
We had a stain on our brand new 2011 Ford Escape the week after we brought it home. The stain could not be removed by the dealer, and the dealer reluctantly replaced the seat . The real issue here is that Ford seems to be using the same untested recycled material that was recalled in 2008 just to appease the green community. I really like my Ford Escape but for the fact that I have to be so careful with the seats to prevent further staining, I would never buy another Ford vehicle again. Good luck with Ford's dealership and Corporate, both are reluctant to stand behind this aspect of their product!!
#211 of 255 Re: '09 seat stains can I still get replaced? [halubdesign]
Jul 15, 2012 (7:57 am)
i agree. my front seats were replaced with the same material. and this material gets those white ringed water stains. when i bought the car (used), the back seat had stains, but they weren't the white ringed ones. re the poster who says they can be "easily cleaned"--no, they can't. i've done the woolite pet stain cleaning route several times with very little success.
Jul 15, 2012 (11:23 am)
So we're clear the stains on my 2008 escape's seats were caused by water falling onto the seat when you open the doors during or after a rain.