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77 messages, Last post on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:40 AM
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Replying to: mattandi (Feb 13, 2008 6:00 pm) That NHTSA number you reference doesn't link to any Veracruz complaints. I checked their site and the only match to that number is a complaint about a sudden flat tire on a Jeep Cherokee from 2003.  I did find 4 complaints about the headlight issue, but no info about any safety investigation. And at least 2 of the complaints seem to be written by the same person. I also checked the Hyundai tech site (www.hyundaitechinfo.com) and the only mention about headlight aiming I could find was under the shop section. If you search there, you will find the correct shop procedure for aiming headlights. Out of curiosity, have you ever had a vehicle before with projector style headlights like the Veracruz? The light projected from them is a much more focused beam and does have a sharp cutoff that can be disconcerting, especially if you are coming from a vehicle with older style sealed beam or non-projector style headlights. It's like the difference between a spotlight versus a floodlight. And believe me, I have seen that difference! My current vehicle has projector style lights and it definitely took geting used to, especially with these old eyes!  Another thing to remember is that the design of the headlights had to pass muster with the federal govt to start with, so unless there is some finding that the lights don't meet federal and state requirements, it is likely that you will never get any satisfaction on this. My .02.
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Feb 13, 2008 9:23 pm) I did find this number on the NHTSA and it does reference the phantom TSB for Veracruz. Go to this site http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/tsbs/ and plug in the number 10023592. It is not an ODI number so do not plug it into the complaints page or that is what you will get a JEEP. It is an item number and must be plugged into the TSB page on their site. Projector style lights still must be aimed properly to do the job. If the low beams blind oncoming traffic but appear too low to the driver and the high beams do nothing but light up the tree peaks there is a problem. If the dealership and district representative says there is NO TSB (yet the district rep admits seeing a problem)and Hyundai does not plan on addressing the issue, there is a problem. If Hyundai does not address written complaints written to their vice presidents, what does this say about their customer service? If the same person did file more than one complaint with the NHTSA I'm sure they will see that at their end because each complaint has to provide name, address, dealership, email and telephone number to be investigated. All the public reader sees is the narrative. Perhaps the complaints look similar because the problem is the same problem.
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Replying to: ehtpiney (Feb 14, 2008 3:03 am) The Tiburon is equipped with projector beam low beam headlights. The most notable characteristic of projector beam headlights is the sharp cut-off at the top of the beam. The design of the projector beam headlight was developed in Europe, where strict beam cut-off requirements are intended to reduce glare for on-coming traffic. When the headlights are reflected off of a white surface, you might be able to detect a slight violet shift in the light at the cut-off line. This is a function of the projector lens and how it refracts different light colors at slightly different angles. Headlights have commonly been aimed through a series of flats on the headlight lens, in conjunction with the shape of the reflector. The projector beam headlight uses a poly-ellipsoid reflector, a cut-off screen, and a sharply focused projector lens, which requires a different aiming procedure The light from the bulb in the projector beam headlight bounces off of the polyellipsoid reflectors, passes through the secondary focal point, and is focused by the projector lens. The cut-off screen blocks the light above the cut-off line. The lens focuses the light onto the road, "projecting" it forward. HEADLIGHT ADJUSTMENT: The sharp cut-off at the top of the beam makes headlight misadjustment more noticeable during night time driving. The headlights incorporate built-in alignment indicators, making routine adjustments easier. Follow the steps below for proper adjustment: Park the vehicle on a level surface. Bounce the suspension to settle it, both front-to-back and side-to-side. Turn the adjusters until the vertical indicator is level and the horizontal indicator is centered. If you want to see the full TSB, look up TSB #97-90-013 for a 97 Tiburon. If nothing else, it might give your service dept a better idea as to how to aim your headlights. As far as the NHTSA reference to the "phantom" TSB, I really don't know where they came up with that listing. Is it possible that they were discussing a possible TSB and never got beyond the discussion stage?
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Replying to: jrsactown (Jan 21, 2008 2:24 pm) |
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Replying to: lmf4159 (Feb 18, 2008 9:26 am) It was out of alignment by 6 inches. Both low and high were adjusted, and now they work fine. Keep in mind these are projector headlights, so they shine differently which takes getting used to. I would not let this stop you from getting your 08 Limited VC. I also tested 10 other vehicles and VC won hands down, and I now have 11k miles on it without any problems.You will love this car.
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Replying to: jrsactown (Feb 18, 2008 10:05 am) |
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Replying to: lmf4159 (Feb 18, 2008 9:26 am) I have not had anyone flash their brights at me. The only remaining complaint I have is that the low beams have a distinct horizontal cutoff that makes it difficult to read road signs at medium and close distances. I understand this is a common problem with projector beams. I would NOT get a dimmer bulb. In fact, I'm waiting for Sylvannia to come out with H11 SilverStar bulbs (they don't make them yet) so I can replace the low beams and make them BRIGHTER. H7 bulbs go in the high beams. Good luck! You'll love your car!
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Replying to: xquuzme (Feb 18, 2008 2:31 pm) I have a pair in my 07, and they are excellent. Worth every penny. |
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Replying to: ehtpiney (Jan 15, 2008 12:02 pm) |
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OK, I finally figured it out. It is so simple, it is stunning the bimbos at Hyundai dealerships haven't clued in. There are two separate sets of headlight aiming controls on the Hyundai Veracruz. One set is over top the headlight assembly, and is accessible through small holes near the very front of the top of the engine compartment. They are labeled U-D and L-R. These adjustments control the entire headlight assembly unit, so they aim both the high beams and low beams all at once. One control adjusts the up/down aim, and the other one adjusts the left/right aim. The Hyundai mechanics only know how to adjust these controls. The trick is to use this set of controls first to aim the high beams properly, which is dead straight ahead. When you complete this step, the low beams will point downwards at a ridiculous angle. The second set of controls is located inside the engine compartment behind the headlight assembly unit. There are two larger white nylon collars, and two smaller white nylon collars. The collars look like hex key fittings, but they are not - they are just protective sleeves. Slip a short, stubby Phillips screwdriver through the upper large white nylon sleeve, and when it engages the bolt inside, you are now able to adjust ONLY the low beam up/down aim by turning the bolt. The left (driver's side) low beam headlight is easy to aim, but the right side is tricky because there are electronic devices too close to the headlight assembly to let you reach your hand down there. You need to use a ratchet wrench equipped with a Phillips screwdriver head, or a flex-shaft screwdriver to reach the right side low beam aiming control. To aim the headlights, turn on both the high and low beams, and shine the headlights onto a white surface, such as a garage door. Adjust the high and low beams together, using the top controls as described above, so that the high beams point exactly straight ahead with no upward or downward angle. Next, adjust the low beams, using the controls inside the engine compartment, so that there is NO black line between the low and high beam cut-offs, and so that there is a small amount of overlap between the low and high beams (not too much, or your low beams will aim too high). That’s it - you’re done. The whole process takes 10 minutes. The improvement is phenomenal - incredible! It is mind boggling that the morons at Hyundai don't know how to do this. |
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